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Subject: Re: Tournament of the century

Author: blass uri

Date: 00:00:00 02/13/99

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On February 13, 1999 at 01:52:55, Igor Syry wrote:

>On February 12, 1999 at 17:15:01, blass uri wrote:
>
>>
>>On February 12, 1999 at 16:56:20, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>>
>>>On February 12, 1999 at 16:45:57, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 12, 1999 at 16:37:32, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On February 12, 1999 at 15:30:46, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On February 12, 1999 at 15:23:45, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On February 12, 1999 at 13:31:33, Alain Lyrette wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hey gang!Want to know who's the real champion of the world?How about a 4
>>>>>>>>player's tournament?Kasparov,Anand,Karpov and...Deepest blue?Your prediction
>>>>>>>>please.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think I know who would finish 4th.
>>>>>>Who?
>>>>>>I would guess Karpov.
>>>>>
>>>>>IMHO, it'll be much easier for Karpov to play against DB than either
>>>>>for Kasparov or Anand. It'll be much easier for him to properly play
>>>>>anti-computer startegy than for other two.
>>>>Well, he would still have to beat Anand and/or Kasparov.  I figure he would meet
>>>>Anand in the consolation round and get beat.  I was not aware of his
>>>>anti-computer ability.  Is this due to his style of play (closed?) or experience
>>>>against computers or???
>>>
>>>That'd certainly be my guess.  Karpov doesn't like to take even the smallest
>>>chance...His play is much less tactical than the others, which would be good
>>>against DB - if anyone tries to get into a tactical bout with DB, even Kasparov,
>>>he's _very_ likely to lose.
>>>Maybe Karpov would do no better against DB than the others, but he won't really
>>>have to change his style much, like the others might - it'll be easier on him.
>>>
>>>Jeremiah
>>
>>I do not agree about it.
>>karpov won deep thought only because of a mistake of deep thought in a drawn
>>rook endings
>>I do not know about achievements of karpov in the past against computers.
>>
>
>I do not really understand  how a computer can make a "mistake"? Mistake is
>really a "human" attribute.

Computers can make mistakes because they do not see everything.
The mistake of deep thought was because it did not understand the rook endgame.

I found that today's top program are not going to do the same mistake.


>Anyway, what counts is that Karpov won. Doesn't matter when a computer made a
>mistake, in the openint, middle game or ending.

It is important because deeper blue is not going to do mistakes in these
positions.

>
>>I think that karpov is the worst player against computers(relative to humans
>>with similiar rating).
>>
>>Uri
>
>I think this is doutbtful. Do you have any statistiscs on this?

I do not have statistics but I remember that  he had bad results against
computers.

I think that he played against old Rebel in active chess and did not win but I
am not sure.

Uri
>
>Regards,
>
>igor



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