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Subject: Re: Test position Pro Deo 1.1 'Ripley'

Author: Eelco de Groot

Date: 06:43:58 06/14/05

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On June 13, 2005 at 13:42:04, Yar wrote:

>How long does it to your engine to find Qf5 ?
>[D] 5r1k/6bp/p1p1Q3/P2pn3/1Pp2q2/4R3/2R2PPN/6K1 b - -
>
>With best regards,
>
>Yar

Pro Deo Default plays 1..Qf6

00:00:00.1	-0,19	2	399	Qf5 Qxf5 Rxf5
00:00:00.1	-0,03	2	698	Nd3 g3
00:00:00.1	0,04	2	993	d4 Rg3
00:00:00.1	-0,01	3	2510	d4 Rg3 Bh6
00:00:00.2	0,35	4	9987	d4 g3 Qf5 Qxf5 Rxf5
00:00:00.2	0,29	5	23668	d4 Re1 Rd8 Rce2
00:00:00.2	0,16	6	76453	d4 Re1 Qf6 Qh3 Qg6 Rce2
00:00:00.3	0,42	7	201647	d4 g3 Qg5 Re1 Nd3 Ra1 Ne5
00:00:00.5	0,36	8	399849	d4 g3 Qg5 Rxe5 Qxe5 Qxe5 Bxe5 Rxc4 Kg7 Rxc6
00:00:01.0	0,70	9	1041815	d4 Rxe5 Bxe5 g3 Qe4 Qxc4 Bg7 Re2 Qb1+ Nf1
00:00:01.9	0,31	10	2027719	d4 g3 Qf5 Qxf5 Rxf5 Rxe5 Rxe5 Rxc4 Re1+ Nf1 Re2 Rxc6
00:00:03.7	0,47	10	4096836	Qf6 Qxf6 Bxf6 Nf1 Nd3 Rxd3 cxd3 Rxc6 Bd4 Rxa6 Rxf2
00:00:04.3	0,46	11	4883516	Qf6 Qxf6 Bxf6 Rce2 Nd3 Rf3 Nxb4 Ng4 Bg7 Rxf8+ Bxf8
Re3
00:00:06.9	0,66	12	8107342	Qf6 Qxf6 Bxf6 Rce2 Nd3 Rf3 Nxb4 Re6 Bg7 Rxf8+ Bxf8
Re8 Kg7 Re3
00:00:15.1	0,71	13	18278362	Qf6 Qxf6 Bxf6 Kf1 Nd3 Rxd3 cxd3 Rxc6 Be7 Rc3 d2 Rd3
Bxb4 Nf3
00:00:32.2	0,73	14	40022874	Qf6 Qxf6 Bxf6 Nf3 Nxf3+ gxf3 Bg7 Re6 Rf6 Rce2
00:00:55.8	0,73	15	70695777	Qf6 Qxf6 Bxf6 Nf3 Nxf3+ gxf3 Bg7 Re6 Rf6 Rce2
00:02:38.5	0,79	16	201269196	Qf6 Qxf6 Bxf6 Kf1 Nd3 Rxd3 cxd3 Rxc6 Be7 Rc3 d2 Rd3
Bxb4 Nf3
00:08:29.1	0,83	17	649902142	Qf6 Qxf6 Bxf6 Kf1 d4 Re4 Rd8
00:31:37.3	0,83	18	2408561948	Qf6 Qxf6 Bxf6 Rce2 Nd3

Pro Deo 1.1 Vulcan {9i8i} 'Ripley' settings play 1..Qf5 after 24.4 seconds. The
score is positive for Black, to about 1.1 pawns, where Chessmaster evaluates the
position as negative. That probably does not mean all that much here. Maybe if
it was negative for Black, Pro Deo would have been lees inclined to exchange
Queens.

But, a more important observation from a testing point of view:
Pro deo default is much faster in reaching a plydepth of 15 or more. Pro Deo
'Ripley'has lots of checks in Q-Search and only 4 plies selective depth in
midgame ([Adjusted Selectivity MIDG = 4]). So, dilemma, which is better? Or does
this just not work?

Pro Deo 1.1 'Ripley' Athlon 3200+, 200 Mb HT

00:00:00.1	0,68	3	10125	d4 Rh3 h6
00:00:00.1	0,73	4	16846	d4 g3 Qf5 Qxf5 Rxf5
00:00:00.2	0,26	5	33350	d4 Rxe5 Bxe5 Nf3 Bb8 Rxc4
00:00:00.2	0,42	5	62888	Nd3 Rf3 Qb8 Rxf8+ Qxf8 Ng4 Nxb4
00:00:00.3	0,50	6	155293	Nd3 Rf3 Qb8 Rxf8+ Qxf8 Ng4 Nxb4 Re2
00:00:00.3	0,50	6	181792	d4
00:00:00.4	0,69	6	208261	d4 g3 Qf6 Rxe5 Qxe5 Qxc4 Qe4 Qxc6
00:00:00.5	0,69	7	326203	d4 g3 Qg5 Rxe5 Qxe5 Qxc4 Qe4 Qxc6 Qe1+ Nf1
00:00:00.7	0,69	8	578599	d4 g3 Qg5 Rxe5 Qxe5 Qxc4 Qe4 Qxc6 Qe1+ Nf1
00:00:01.9	0,91	9	1976838	d4 g3 Qf5 Qxf5 Rxf5 Rxe5 Rxe5 Rxc4 Re6 b5 axb5
00:00:04.8	0,50	10	5583386	d4 g3 Qf5 Qxf5 Rxf5 Rxe5 Rxe5 Rxc4 Re1+ Nf1 d3
00:00:13.7	0,51	10	16410613	Qf5 Qxf5 Rxf5 Nf1 d4 Rxe5 Bxe5
00:00:15.6	0,85	11	18696511	Qf5 Qxf5 Rxf5 Ra2 Nd3 Rae2 Nxb4 Re8+ Rf8 Rxf8+ Bxf8
Re8 Kg7 Re3
00:00:24.4	0,85	11	29546877	Qf6
00:00:24.4	0,85	11	18696511	Qf5 Qxf5 Rxf5 Ra2 Nd3 Rae2 Nxb4 Re8+ Rf8 Rxf8+ Bxf8
Re8 Kg7 Re3
00:00:29.7	1,14	12	36013832	Qf5 Qxf5 Rxf5 Re1 Nd3
00:00:51.6	1,01	13	64537097	Qf5 Qxf5 Rxf5 Rce2 Nd3 Re7 Nxb4 Rb7 Bf8 g4 Rf6
00:02:16.2	0,91	14	174117036	Qf5 Qxf5 Rxf5 Rce2 Nd3 Re8+ Rf8 Ng4
00:08:13.0	1,12	15	625830755	Qf5 Qxf5 Rxf5 Rce2 Nd3
Current move: Qd4  (3/36)  depth=15


Pro Deo 1.1 Vulcan {9i8c}

00:00:00.3	0,50	6	129204	d4
00:00:00.3	0,65	6	144164	d4 g3 Qf6 Rxe5 Qxe5 Qxc4 Qe1+ Qf1
00:00:00.4	0,69	7	251420	d4 g3 Qg5 Rxe5 Qxe5 Qxc4 Qe4 Qxc6 Qe1+ Nf1
00:00:00.6	0,69	8	457373	d4 g3 Qg5 Rxe5 Qxe5 Qxc4 Qe4 Qxc6 Qe1+ Nf1
00:00:01.0	0,69	8	934525	Nd3
00:00:01.3	0,84	8	1258236	Nd3 Qe7 Qf6 Rce2 Qxe7 Rxe7 Nxb4 Re1
00:00:02.7	0,48	9	2863332	Nd3 Rf3 Qb8 Rxf8+ Qxf8 Qd7 Nxf2 Qxc6 Nd3 Qxd5
00:00:03.1	0,95	9	3239225	d4 g3 Qf5 Qxf5 Rxf5 Rxe5 Rxe5 Rxc4 Re6 Nf3 Rd6
00:00:04.2	0,50	10	4698147	d4 g3 Qf5 Qxf5 Rxf5 Rxe5 Rxe5 Rxc4 Re1+ Nf1 d3
00:00:09.3	0,39	11	11118144	d4 g3 Qf5 Qxf5 Rxf5 Rxe5 Rxe5 Rxc4 Re1+ Nf1 Re2 Rxc6
Bf8 b5 axb5
00:00:15.2	0,54	11	18380749	Nd3 Rf3 Qh6 Qe7 Rg8 Rg3 Qf6 Qxf6 Bxf6
00:00:19.7	0,54	11	24222571	Qf6
00:00:20.9	0,83	11	25646160	Qf6 Qxf6 Bxf6 Rce2 Nd3 Rf3 Bg7 Rxf8+ Bxf8 Nf3 Bxb4
Nd4
00:00:25.3	0,73	12	31363826	Qf6 Qxf6 Bxf6 Kf1
00:00:49.9	0,91	13	63267757	Qf6 Qxf6 Bxf6 Kf1
00:01:45.3	0,83	14	137046129	Qf6 Qxf6 Bxf6 Kf1
00:04:53.0	0,84	14	384060680	Qf5 Qxf5 Rxf5 Rce2 Nd3 Re8+ Rf8 Ng4 Kg8 R8e7 Nxb4
Rb7 Rf4 Nh6+ Bxh6
00:06:44.8	1,20	15	527034565	Qf5 Qxf5 Rxf5 Rcc3 Rf8 Nf1 Ng4
00:16:09.8	1,23	16	1261951143	Qf5 Qxf5 Rxf5 Nf1 Nd3
Current move: c5  (13/36)  depth=16



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