Author: Madhavan
Date: 23:38:07 06/14/05
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On June 15, 2005 at 00:57:05, Terry McCracken wrote: >On June 15, 2005 at 00:05:51, Tony Nichols wrote: > >>On June 14, 2005 at 22:35:26, William Sorin wrote: >> >>>On June 14, 2005 at 22:19:29, Mark Ryan wrote: >>> >>>>Has this been the wrong metaphor all along? >>>> >>>>Years ago, Kasparov predicted that the future of chess was in "Advanced Chess" >>>>(people playing chess with computer assistance). Now the Freestyle Tournament >>>>seems to be confirming this prediction. In the words of Chessbase, " ... we can >>>>draw first tentative conclusions. One is that the most powerful chess playing >>>>entity on the planet is a GM armed with a computer." >>>>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2453 >>>> >>>>We are the tool-manufacturing species. We create the tools, and we shape their >>>>purpose. In Vancouver, the trains in the SkyTrain system have no drivers, but >>>>there is a central control room where human beings monitor everything carefully >>>>and react to unforeseen emergencies. The level of human involvement has been >>>>reduced, but it is still there; in fact, it has been isolated to a higher level. >>>> >>>>No matter how strong the chess machines become, will they always be stronger >>>>with a GM at the controls? >>>> >>>>Mark >>> >>> >>> >>>I wonder then if a 2600 Grandmaster using Fritz could beat any of the Top Ten >>>human Grandmasters without computer assistance? >> >> >>I would expect a 2600 GM with chessbase and Fritz to crush any human player >>without. Even at the very top many games are decided by tactical mistakes. Also, >> the ability to research an opening at the board would be very useful. >>Regards >>Tony > >I believe Kasparov could defeat a 2600 rated player, even with the assistance of >a top program and top PC computer, as long as he knows what he's dealing with. Excuse me,what exactly is the difference between a 2000 rated player with computer assistance and a 2600 with the same program running as the first one?since we are sure both of them were probably going to make all computer moves >I'd like to see such a match, but unfortunately he's retired:( > >In a sense he was dealing with mutiple GM's when he played Deep Blue, and his >loss was in the six game match was a fluke, one we'll never see proven >otherwise:( > >Too Bad, > Terry
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