Author: Uri Blass
Date: 00:03:51 06/15/05
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On June 15, 2005 at 02:38:07, Madhavan wrote: >On June 15, 2005 at 00:57:05, Terry McCracken wrote: > >>On June 15, 2005 at 00:05:51, Tony Nichols wrote: >> >>>On June 14, 2005 at 22:35:26, William Sorin wrote: >>> >>>>On June 14, 2005 at 22:19:29, Mark Ryan wrote: >>>> >>>>>Has this been the wrong metaphor all along? >>>>> >>>>>Years ago, Kasparov predicted that the future of chess was in "Advanced Chess" >>>>>(people playing chess with computer assistance). Now the Freestyle Tournament >>>>>seems to be confirming this prediction. In the words of Chessbase, " ... we can >>>>>draw first tentative conclusions. One is that the most powerful chess playing >>>>>entity on the planet is a GM armed with a computer." >>>>>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2453 >>>>> >>>>>We are the tool-manufacturing species. We create the tools, and we shape their >>>>>purpose. In Vancouver, the trains in the SkyTrain system have no drivers, but >>>>>there is a central control room where human beings monitor everything carefully >>>>>and react to unforeseen emergencies. The level of human involvement has been >>>>>reduced, but it is still there; in fact, it has been isolated to a higher level. >>>>> >>>>>No matter how strong the chess machines become, will they always be stronger >>>>>with a GM at the controls? >>>>> >>>>>Mark >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>I wonder then if a 2600 Grandmaster using Fritz could beat any of the Top Ten >>>>human Grandmasters without computer assistance? >>> >>> >>>I would expect a 2600 GM with chessbase and Fritz to crush any human player >>>without. Even at the very top many games are decided by tactical mistakes. Also, >>> the ability to research an opening at the board would be very useful. >>>Regards >>>Tony >> >>I believe Kasparov could defeat a 2600 rated player, even with the assistance of >>a top program and top PC computer, as long as he knows what he's dealing with. > >Excuse me,what exactly is the difference between a 2000 rated player with >computer assistance and a 2600 with the same program running as the first >one?since we are sure both of them were probably going to make all computer >moves You are wrong and not both of them are going to make all computer moves. If the 2000 player is experienced in using machines then the team of the 2000 player and the machine will play better than the machine because the 2000 player will know when not to trust the machine and to do more analysis. Uri
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