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Subject: Re: Man versus Machine?

Author: Vikrant Malvankar

Date: 01:04:19 06/15/05

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On June 15, 2005 at 02:38:07, Madhavan wrote:

>On June 15, 2005 at 00:57:05, Terry McCracken wrote:
>
>>On June 15, 2005 at 00:05:51, Tony Nichols wrote:
>>
>>>On June 14, 2005 at 22:35:26, William Sorin wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 14, 2005 at 22:19:29, Mark Ryan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Has this been the wrong metaphor all along?
>>>>>
>>>>>Years ago, Kasparov predicted that the future of chess was in "Advanced Chess"
>>>>>(people playing chess with computer assistance).  Now the Freestyle Tournament
>>>>>seems to be confirming this prediction.  In the words of Chessbase, " ... we can
>>>>>draw first tentative conclusions. One is that the most powerful chess playing
>>>>>entity on the planet is a GM armed with a computer."
>>>>>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2453
>>>>>
>>>>>We are the tool-manufacturing species.  We create the tools, and we shape their
>>>>>purpose.  In Vancouver, the trains in the SkyTrain system have no drivers, but
>>>>>there is a central control room where human beings monitor everything carefully
>>>>>and react to unforeseen emergencies.  The level of human involvement has been
>>>>>reduced, but it is still there; in fact, it has been isolated to a higher level.
>>>>>
>>>>>No matter how strong the chess machines become, will they always be stronger
>>>>>with a GM at the controls?
>>>>>
>>>>>Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I wonder then if a 2600 Grandmaster using Fritz could beat any of the Top Ten
>>>>human Grandmasters without computer assistance?
>>>
>>>
>>>I would expect a 2600 GM with chessbase and Fritz to crush any human player
>>>without. Even at the very top many games are decided by tactical mistakes. Also,
>>>   the ability to research an opening at the board would be very useful.
>>>Regards
>>>Tony
>>
>>I believe Kasparov could defeat a 2600 rated player, even with the assistance of
>>a top program and top PC computer, as long as he knows what he's dealing with.
>
>Excuse me,what exactly is the difference between a 2000 rated player with
>computer assistance and a 2600 with the same program running as the first
>one?since we are sure both of them were probably going to make all computer
>moves

Madhavan how u do Analysis with the help of computer(Fritz,Shredder etc.)?

Do u agree to what computer shows in a particular position ? or make a move that
u find interesting and start finding continuations from thereon with the help of
Programs.?





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