Author: Tom Likens
Date: 16:03:13 06/15/05
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On June 15, 2005 at 17:26:08, Pablo Ignacio Restrepo wrote: Hey Pablo, I long ago made the distinction between my program's strength (i.e rating) and my own sense of self-esteem (I had to, since my program sucked so badly ;-) To me the fun of computer chess is letting other people enjoy the program. I get a real kick out of all the people (of all strength levels) that seem to enjoy playing the engine. When someone rated 1830 plays 20 straight games against the engine on ICC, it makes me believe that he/she must be enjoying the games or why else play them? To me that is success. Of course, I still enjoy it when the engine beats the occasionally IM, but it's losses are interesting to look over as well. BTW, I still think your original point is valid--ICC computer ratings *are* inflated--including Djinn's. :-) regards, --tom >Hello Tom, >This is a great news for me. Sorry. >I did not know you have opened formula.Congratullations,this is like must be the >chess> Democratic. >Best regard, >Pablo >Information about DjinnX(C) (Last disconnected Thu May 26 2005 01:37): > > rating [need] win loss draw total best >Bullet 1769 [8] 3 3 0 6 >Blitz 2571 1857 112 64 2033 2638 (03-May-2004) >Standard 2462 796 92 46 934 2488 (21-May-2005) > > 1: Djinn 0.876C > 2: Engine written and operated by Tom Likens (ICC handle "Likens") > 3: AMD FX-51, 2GB of RAM, OS: Linux 2.4.21 > 4: This is an ongoing hobby of mine, more fun than anything else. > 5: Most 3-4-5 piece tablebases are included. > 6: Djinn doesn't yet process draw offers, but it will resign ;) > 7: Visit the Djinn webpage at: > 8: > 9: http://webpages.charter.net/tlikens/index.html > > > > >On June 15, 2005 at 17:06:00, Tom Likens wrote: > >>On June 15, 2005 at 13:39:48, Pablo Ignacio Restrepo wrote: >> >>>Hello >>>ICC chess computers records are a Joke, and of course the elo of ICC human >>>beings that have been playing against engines there are a disguize. >>>Why ICC recors are a Joke? Becouse are unfair. >>>Why ICC chess computers records are unfair? >>>ICC computers recors are unfair becouse if computers open formula they will been >>>losing many games playing against many human beings chess players with elo since >>>1800 or less, and becouse the ICC sysop are going to banned human beings that >>>like to play good anticomputer Antichess style or technique, beating engines. >> >>[--snip--] >> >>My program Djinn is a rather weak engine, but it has *always* played anyone >>and everyone. In fact, I set no formula at all--so I'm not sure that portion >>of your objection is valid. On the other hand, I do agree that the ratings >>are inflated. Keep in mind though, that the ICC ELO ratings are only a >>reflection of a particular pool of players and essentially bear no relationship >>to any other ratings (FIDE, USCF etc.) >> >>regards, >>--tom
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