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Subject: Re: Draw claim?

Author: Ricardo Gibert

Date: 16:38:27 06/15/05

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On June 15, 2005 at 19:16:50, Terry McCracken wrote:

>On June 15, 2005 at 18:50:31, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>
>>On June 15, 2005 at 11:04:17, GuyHaworth wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2451 seems to think one can claim
>>>a draw in a KRKB endgame.
>>>
>>>However, I thought the rule was that one could only do this if it was impossible
>>>to mate the other side, even with co-operation.  Well, Black can lose its B for
>>>a start ... and maxDTC = 18 so there are one or two subtle wins for White
>>>around.
>>>
>>>So are Chessbase wrong here?
>>>
>>>g
>>
>>Based on the following, chessbase "appears" to be wrong:
>>
>>"9.6  The game is drawn when a position is reached from which a checkmate cannot
>>occur by any possible series of legal moves, even with the most unskilled play.
>>This immediately ends the game."
>>
>That should be scratched from any rule book. If it's a book draw, and both
>parties know it, and both know they will draw, then the game should end as a
>draw. I'd be mad as hell if I ask for draw and my opponent rufused knowing full
>well it's a draw, and even more angry if the arbiter declined my logical
>request.

The way you combined the words "angry" and "logical" in the same sentence is
certainly amusing, but it is not logical to expect a ruling at variance with the
rules.

>
>A Draw is a Draw.
>>
>>
>>However, the following relates to "quickplay finish" and may have been
>>applicable:
>>
>>"Article 10: Quickplay Finish
>>10.1  A 'quickplay finish' is the last phase of a game, when all the remaining
>>moves must be made in a limited time.
>>
>>10.2  If the player, having the move, has less than two minutes left on his
>>clock, he may claim a draw before his flag falls. He shall stop the clocks and
>>summon the arbiter.
>>
>>a. If the arbiter agrees the opponent is making no effort to win the game by
>>normal means, or that it is not possible to win by normal means, then he shall
>>declare the game drawn. Otherwise he shall postpone his decision or reject the
>>claim."
>>
>>In which case, chessbase would be correct.



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