Author: Terry McCracken
Date: 17:01:37 06/15/05
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On June 15, 2005 at 19:38:27, Ricardo Gibert wrote: >On June 15, 2005 at 19:16:50, Terry McCracken wrote: > >>On June 15, 2005 at 18:50:31, Ricardo Gibert wrote: >> >>>On June 15, 2005 at 11:04:17, GuyHaworth wrote: >>> >>>>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2451 seems to think one can claim >>>>a draw in a KRKB endgame. >>>> >>>>However, I thought the rule was that one could only do this if it was impossible >>>>to mate the other side, even with co-operation. Well, Black can lose its B for >>>>a start ... and maxDTC = 18 so there are one or two subtle wins for White >>>>around. >>>> >>>>So are Chessbase wrong here? >>>> >>>>g >>> >>>Based on the following, chessbase "appears" to be wrong: >>> >>>"9.6 The game is drawn when a position is reached from which a checkmate cannot >>>occur by any possible series of legal moves, even with the most unskilled play. >>>This immediately ends the game." >>> >>That should be scratched from any rule book. If it's a book draw, and both >>parties know it, and both know they will draw, then the game should end as a >>draw. I'd be mad as hell if I ask for draw and my opponent rufused knowing full >>well it's a draw, and even more angry if the arbiter declined my logical >>request. > >The way you combined the words "angry" and "logical" in the same sentence is >certainly amusing, but it is not logical to expect a ruling at variance with the >rules. Life is contradiction...I thought logical and angry might raise an eyebrow:) I'd fight such a ruling, I'd fight to change it. I'd hope most good players wouldn't be indecent enough to force me to play on in a drawn ending just to wait for something very unlikely to happen or to simply win on time. Tsk, Tsk! Trust me, I wouldn't do it, as it belittles me and chess. Of course I can't stop people from being petty shmucks. Terry > >> >>A Draw is a Draw. >>> >>> >>>However, the following relates to "quickplay finish" and may have been >>>applicable: >>> >>>"Article 10: Quickplay Finish >>>10.1 A 'quickplay finish' is the last phase of a game, when all the remaining >>>moves must be made in a limited time. >>> >>>10.2 If the player, having the move, has less than two minutes left on his >>>clock, he may claim a draw before his flag falls. He shall stop the clocks and >>>summon the arbiter. >>> >>>a. If the arbiter agrees the opponent is making no effort to win the game by >>>normal means, or that it is not possible to win by normal means, then he shall >>>declare the game drawn. Otherwise he shall postpone his decision or reject the >>>claim." >>> >>>In which case, chessbase would be correct.
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