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Subject: Re: Man versus Machine?

Author: gerold daniels

Date: 19:05:09 06/15/05

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On June 15, 2005 at 08:44:03, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On June 14, 2005 at 22:35:26, William Sorin wrote:
>
>>On June 14, 2005 at 22:19:29, Mark Ryan wrote:
>>
>>>Has this been the wrong metaphor all along?
>>>
>>>Years ago, Kasparov predicted that the future of chess was in "Advanced Chess"
>>>(people playing chess with computer assistance).  Now the Freestyle Tournament
>>>seems to be confirming this prediction.  In the words of Chessbase, " ... we can
>>>draw first tentative conclusions. One is that the most powerful chess playing
>>>entity on the planet is a GM armed with a computer."
>>>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2453
>>>
>>>We are the tool-manufacturing species.  We create the tools, and we shape their
>>>purpose.  In Vancouver, the trains in the SkyTrain system have no drivers, but
>>>there is a central control room where human beings monitor everything carefully
>>>and react to unforeseen emergencies.  The level of human involvement has been
>>>reduced, but it is still there; in fact, it has been isolated to a higher level.
>>>
>>>No matter how strong the chess machines become, will they always be stronger
>>>with a GM at the controls?
>>>
>>>Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>I wonder then if a 2600 Grandmaster using Fritz could beat any of the Top Ten
>>human Grandmasters without computer assistance?
>
>FM Diepeveen + Diep at laptop is enough for that already.
>
>You just need to know when the computer is making a strategic beginners move and
>overrule it, or when it picks the wrong side of the board to start tactics.
>
>Vincent

True. good evening Vincent. i have notice that  some programs will chase after a
pawn on the wrong side of the board with queen and put it out of
play.with the queen out of play on the wrong side of the board it is hard to get
it back in time to save the game. best to pick another move for it before it get
out of place. even if it is a - move.

gerold.



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