Author: Roger D Davis
Date: 21:54:52 06/15/05
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On June 15, 2005 at 18:38:20, Dann Corbit wrote:
>On June 15, 2005 at 18:13:09, Roger D Davis wrote:
>
>>On June 15, 2005 at 17:34:40, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>On June 15, 2005 at 17:15:13, Marc Lacrosse wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 15, 2005 at 16:38:37, Gabor Szots wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On June 15, 2005 at 09:43:27, Marc Lacrosse wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I am delighted to present you this highly moral -and funny- story :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Program Score % Av.Op. Elo + - Draws
>>>>>>1 Fruit Massy 2005 : 58.5/100 58.5 2620 2680 60 60 25.0 %
>>>>>>2 TogaII 0.93 : 41.5/100 41.5 2680 2620 60 60 25.0 %
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Congratulations to Fabien Letouzey!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Long live original opensource free quality software ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't see any moral aspect here. Toga is recognized as legal.
>>>>
>>>>So anything legal is moral ?
>>>
>>>The original author has no objections and has plainly stated that fact.
>>>
>>>If a program is licenced GPL, then that is (in fact) the actual intention.
>>>
>>>>When you build the major part of your program on the efforts of someone who gave
>>>>it opensource to the community, I feel that you should at least keep the same
>>>>opensource policy, and give the largest credit to the original effort.
>>>>
>>>>That is my feeling and I do not see why I could not express it publicly.
>>>>
>>>>So for me it is quite pleasant that the original author could take the time to
>>>>further improve its own work.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>What would you say if it turned out that Toga was stronger?
>>>>
>>>>Not a shame, not a pity, just bad luck.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>You could equally say that who wins a sword duel has right.
>>>>
>>>>That's exactly the opposite.
>>>>I just began feeling sorry to see everybody praise Toga's strength ("may be the
>>>>best amateur program") with less and less people crediting Fruit for a large
>>>>part of Toga's success.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The time control you use is questionable anyway.
>>>>
>>>>Evidently so, but as any time control in fact...
>>>>I myself presented them as completely preliminary results, and I am not yet
>>>>completely sure myself that Fruit is better than Toga in short blitzes.
>>>>And I have yet no idea of their respective strength at longer time controls: I
>>>>got a copy three days ago !
>>>>
>>>>But if Fruit Massy preliminary results were confirmed, you won't be able to
>>>>prevent me from being delighted with it.
>>>>
>>>>Marc
>>
>>Is it within the GPL to change the name?
>
>Sure.
>
>In fact, I can create a chess project called foobar.
>I can add one small function from Fruit.
>Now foobar is also GPL and I must publish all of the code, including all that I
>wrote myself.
>The new name does not have to change.
That's amazing, since that seems to be causing most of the confusion regarding
the legality of Toga. But it is what it is.
Roger
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