Author: Uri Blass
Date: 14:41:40 06/16/05
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On June 16, 2005 at 17:01:34, Dann Corbit wrote:
>On June 16, 2005 at 07:18:13, Madhavan wrote:
>
>>On June 16, 2005 at 03:59:43, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On June 16, 2005 at 03:47:53, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>>
>>>>I dont buy it.
>>>>The engines had to play all kind of weird stuff.
>>>>For example Shredder had to play the positions after 1.d4 b5 2.e4 a6 or 1.e4 b6
>>>>2.d4 e6 with black and several times 1.b4 and 1.g4 with white.
>>>>Fruit-massy-intel-profile even had to play one time 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d5? and was
>>>>lost in a few moves.
>>>>Your test is flawed.
>>>>
>>>>Michael
>>>
>>>I agree that testing programs without their original book is misleading but
>>>1.b4 is not so bad
>>>
>>>Movei learned to play it and it is the only line that it has positive score in
>>>the premier division in WBEC(it may be interesting if it can keep the positive
>>>score.
>>
>>b4 is a very boring opening,Black will have all pawns centered to 5tth rank
>>means black takes an advantage of centered pawns
>
>It has fans:
>http://www.algonet.se/~marek/
I see that 1.b4 e5 2.Bb2 is the main line there.
Movei is more original and starts 1.b4 e5 2.a3 with good results(including wins
against Crafty and Yace and Warp)
Evaluation was clearly negative against Yace and Warp but Movei could win[of
course there are also losses but so far it wins more often than lose with
b4(shortest win in 29 moves was against Aristarch that chose 1.b4 d5)]
Here are part of Movei's wins in WBEC with 1.b4 (the games that I mentioned)
[Event "WBEC10 Premier Division"]
[Site "OPTERON-244A"]
[Date "2005.06.14"]
[Round "13.1"]
[White "Movei 0.08.306"]
[Black "Crafty 19.19-64BH"]
[Result "1-0"]
[PlyCount "125"]
[EventDate "2005.??.??"]
[TimeControl "40/2400:0"]
1. b4 e5 2. a3 {-0.37/13} Nf6 {-0.29/13} 3. Bb2 {-0.31/13} d6 4. Nc3 {-0.31/13}
Be7 5. e4 {-0.29/14} O-O 6. Nf3 {-0.21/13} d5 7. exd5 {+0.43/13} Nxd5 {-0.05/12
} 8. Nxe5 {+0.61/12} a5 {-0.17/11} 9. Qf3 {+0.75/12} Nxc3 {-0.31/11} 10. Qxc3 {
+0.78/11} Bf6 {-0.26/11} 11. d4 {+0.61/12} axb4 {-0.07/12} 12. axb4 {+0.76/13}
Rxa1+ {+0.00/12} 13. Bxa1 {+0.70/12} Bxe5 14. dxe5 {+0.55/12} Qg5 {-0.06/13}
15. Bb2 {+0.56/12} Rd8 {-0.46/13} 16. g3 {+0.66/12} Nc6 {-0.49/12} 17. Bc4 {
+0.44/12} Bh3 {-0.65/13} 18. f4 Qh6 {-0.57/12} 19. Kf2 Bf5 {-0.04/12} 20. h4
Rd7 {+0.09/11} 21. b5 {+1.33/13} Nd8 {-0.06/13} 22. Be2 {+1.26/14} Qb6+ {
+0.22/13} 23. Qe3 {+1.28/15} Qxe3+ {+0.31/14} 24. Kxe3 Bxc2 {+0.29/15} 25. Rc1
{+1.45/14} Bf5 {+0.37/15} 26. g4 {+1.41/15} Be6 27. f5 {+1.40/14} Ba2 28. b6 {
+1.69/14} c6 29. Bd3 {+1.74/13} Bb3 {+0.85/15} 30. Ra1 {+1.76/13} Kf8 {+1.30/14
} 31. g5 {+1.96/14} c5 {+1.85/14} 32. f6 {+2.69/14} gxf6 {+2.35/14} 33. gxf6
Rxd3+ {+3.63/15} 34. Kxd3 {+3.61/17} Ke8 35. Kc3 {+3.67/15} Bd5 {+3.64/15} 36.
Ra5 {+3.70/16} Ne6 37. Ba3 {+3.73/15} Bc6 38. Bxc5 {+3.72/15} Nf4 39. Ra2 {
+3.82/12} Kd7 {+3.79/14} 40. Rf2 Nd5+ {+3.97/15} 41. Kd4 Ke6 {+3.89/15} 42. h5
{+4.06/17} Bb5 43. h6 {+4.08/16} Bc6 44. Rf1 {+4.11/16} Bb5 {+5.61/17} 45. Rg1
Ba4 46. Rg7 {+5.86/16} Bc2 {+6.85/16} 47. Rg8 {+7.81/16} Nf4 48. Rb8 {+8.09/14}
Kf5 {+9.12/15} 49. Rxb7 {+9.33/14} Ne6+ {+10.30/14} 50. Ke3 Nxc5 {+10.69/14}
51. Rxf7 {+11.82/14} Bb3 {+12.17/13} 52. Rxh7 {+17.62/14} Kg6 53. b7 {+24.33/15
} Kxh7 {+327.45/14} 54. b8=Q {+327.44/17} Kxh6 55. f7 {+327.48/10} Bxf7 {
+327.49/13} 56. Qh8+ {+327.50/6} Kg5 {+327.51/14} 57. Qf6+ {+327.52/6} Kh5 58.
Qxf7+ {+327.54/5} Kh6 59. Kf4 {+327.56/1} Ne6+ 60. Qxe6+ {+327.58/1} Kh7 61.
Qd7+ {+327.60/1} Kg6 62. e6 {+327.62/1} Kh6 63. Kf5 {+327.64/1 Black resigns}
1-0
[Event "WBEC10 Premier Division"]
[Site "OPTERON-244A"]
[Date "2005.06.07"]
[Round "11.1"]
[White "Movei 0.08.306"]
[Black "Yace 0.99.87"]
[Result "1-0"]
[PlyCount "138"]
[EventDate "2005.??.??"]
[TimeControl "40/2400:0"]
1. b4 e5 2. a3 {-0.37/13} d5 3. Bb2 {-0.29/13} Bd6 4. Nf3 {-0.31/14} Nd7 {
+0.33/12} 5. c4 dxc4 {+0.36/12} 6. e4 b5 {+0.38/11} 7. d3 {-0.34/14} cxd3 {
+0.50/12} 8. Bxd3 {-0.51/14} a6 {+0.49/13} 9. O-O {-0.53/13} Ngf6 {+0.52/12}
10. Nc3 {-0.62/13} O-O {+0.61/11} 11. Qd2 {-0.67/12} Qe7 {+0.66/11} 12. Nd5 {
-0.75/12} Nxd5 {+0.77/12} 13. exd5 {-0.86/12} f5 {+0.74/12} 14. Bc2 {-0.67/13}
e4 {+0.77/11} 15. Nd4 {-0.84/13} Ne5 {+0.84/11} 16. Nc6 Nxc6 {+0.89/11} 17.
dxc6 {-0.72/12} Be6 {+0.86/11} 18. Rfe1 {-0.79/12} a5 {+1.10/11} 19. bxa5 Ra6 {
+1.18/11} 20. Qc3 {-0.82/12} Bc5 {+1.16/11} 21. Bb3 {-0.41/13} Rxc6 {+1.15/12}
22. Bxe6+ {-0.47/12} Rxe6 {+1.03/12} 23. Rac1 {-0.40/12} Bd6 {+1.03/12} 24. Qb3
{-0.60/12} Qe8 {+0.94/11} 25. Bd4 {-0.66/11} Kh8 {+1.07/11} 26. Kh1 {-0.69/11}
Rh6 {+1.31/11} 27. h3 {-1.17/13} f4 {+1.36/11} 28. Qc3 {-1.18/11} Rg6 {+1.44/11
} 29. f3 {-1.29/11} e3 {+1.37/12} 30. a6 Rg5 {+1.31/11} 31. Red1 Qa8 {+1.27/10}
32. a7 {-1.13/12} Kg8 {+1.27/10} 33. Qb2 {-1.11/11} Rf7 {+1.34/10} 34. Qb3 {
-1.01/11} Rd5 {+1.07/11} 35. Bb6 {-1.18/12} Rxd1+ {+1.21/11} 36. Qxd1 g6 {
+0.98/12} 37. Qc2 {-0.74/13} Qd5 {+0.98/12} 38. Rd1 {-0.10/14} Qa8 {+0.54/12}
39. Rc1 {+0.00/15} Qd5 {+0.39/13} 40. Rd1 {+0.00/14} Qb7 {+0.46/12} 41. Bd4 {
-0.10/13} Re7 {+0.32/11} 42. a4 {+0.02/13} b4 {+0.15/12} 43. Qc4+ {+0.28/13}
Rf7 {+0.11/13} 44. Bc5 {+0.49/14} Qa8 {-0.37/13} 45. Qxb4 {+0.51/14} e2 {
-0.37/12} 46. Re1 {+0.60/14} Qxa7 {-0.57/14} 47. Bxd6 {+0.63/14} cxd6 {-0.63/13
} 48. Rxe2 {+0.71/13} Qd7 {-0.64/13} 49. a5 {+0.98/13} Kg7 {-1.11/14} 50. a6 {
+1.43/12} d5 {-1.16/13} 51. Qd4+ {+1.20/12} Kh6 {-1.21/14} 52. Ra2 {+1.30/13}
Qa7 {-1.27/14} 53. Qxd5 {+1.34/14} Rd7 {-1.26/13} 54. Qb3 Rd6 {-1.28/13} 55.
Qa4 Rd4 {-1.26/13} 56. Qc2 Rd6 {-1.34/13} 57. Qe2 {+1.65/12} Rc6 {-1.46/13} 58.
Ra1 {+1.84/12} Rd6 {-1.64/14} 59. Kh2 {+1.90/12} Rf6 {-2.07/14} 60. Ra4 g5 {
-2.25/13} 61. Qe5 {+3.23/13} Kg6 {-2.75/13} 62. Ra5 {+3.37/11} h6 {-4.80/12}
63. Qe8+ Kg7 {-4.88/12} 64. Rd5 {+5.49/13} Rxa6 {-7.35/13} 65. Rd7+ {+5.49/11}
Qxd7 {-10.44/17} 66. Qxd7+ Kf6 {-10.84/17} 67. h4 Re6 {-10.99/13} 68. Kh3 {
+6.85/11} Re1 {-11.71/14} 69. hxg5+ {+7.91/9} hxg5 {-325.69/15 Black resigns}
1-0
[Event "WBEC10 Premier Division"]
[Site "OPTERON-244A"]
[Date "2005.06.03"]
[Round "10.4"]
[White "Movei 0.08.306"]
[Black "WARP 0.65"]
[Result "1-0"]
[PlyCount "136"]
[EventDate "2005.??.??"]
[TimeControl "40/2400:0"]
1. b4 e5 2. a3 {-0.37/13} d5 {+0.24/15} 3. Bb2 {-0.36/13} Bd6 {+0.18/14} 4. Nf3
{-0.31/14} Nd7 {+0.21/15} 5. c4 {-0.30/14} dxc4 {+0.29/14} 6. e4 {-0.34/14} b5
{+0.44/13} 7. d3 {-0.37/13} cxd3 {+0.76/14} 8. Bxd3 {-0.51/14} a6 {+0.75/14} 9.
O-O {-0.53/13} Ngf6 {+0.82/14} 10. Nc3 {-0.62/13} O-O {+0.91/11} 11. Qd2 {
-0.67/12} Qe7 {+1.00/12} 12. Nd5 {-0.75/12} Nxd5 {+1.45/14} 13. exd5 {-0.86/12}
e4 {+1.45/14} 14. Rfe1 {-0.73/13} f5 {+1.35/13} 15. Bc2 {-0.86/12} Qd8 {
+1.38/13} 16. Nd4 {-0.82/12} Ne5 {+1.57/13} 17. Qc3 {-1.00/12} Qg5 {+1.42/12}
18. f3 {-1.03/11} exf3 {+1.41/13} 19. Nxf3 {-1.10/12} Nxf3+ {+1.50/13} 20. Qxf3
{-1.07/11} a5 {+1.48/13} 21. bxa5 {-0.88/12} Rxa5 {+1.48/12} 22. Qb3 {-1.11/10}
Qh4 {+1.90/13} 23. h3 {-1.34/11} Qc4 {+1.84/13} 24. Rad1 {-1.37/10} Bb7 {
+1.80/12} 25. Qd3 Qxd3 {+1.82/13} 26. Rxd3 Raa8 {+1.59/13} 27. Rb3 {-1.38/13}
Rae8 {+1.73/14} 28. Rc1 {-1.17/13} Re2 {+1.72/14} 29. Bd1 {-1.08/13} Re7 {
+1.57/14} 30. Bf3 {-0.90/13} Bf4 {+1.56/14} 31. Rd1 Ba6 {+1.55/14} 32. Bd4 {
-0.85/14} Rd8 {+1.46/14} 33. Bc5 {-0.82/12} Ree8 {+1.19/13} 34. Kf2 {-0.69/13}
Rd7 {+1.13/13} 35. g3 Bd6 {+0.83/15} 36. Rc1 {-0.35/12} Re5 {+0.56/15} 37. Bd4
{-0.10/14} Ree7 {+0.36/15} 38. Bc5 f4 {+0.18/15} 39. Bxd6 {+0.41/13} Rxd6 {
-0.03/14} 40. gxf4 Rf7 {-0.29/14} 41. Re3 g6 {-0.48/14} 42. Kg3 {+0.54/14} h5 {
-0.66/14} 43. Re8+ {+0.91/13} Kg7 {-0.96/16} 44. Rc6 Rxc6 {-1.07/16} 45. dxc6 {
+1.17/16} Rf8 {-1.40/18} 46. Rxf8 {+1.29/16} Kxf8 {-1.89/20} 47. Be4 {+1.41/17}
b4 {-1.51/21} 48. axb4 {+1.44/18} Kf7 {-1.51/19} 49. h4 {+2.22/18} Kf6 {
-2.26/19} 50. Kf2 {+2.24/17} Bb5 {-3.25/21} 51. Ke3 {+2.53/17} Ke7 {-3.25/20}
52. Bxg6 {+2.63/17} Bxc6 {-3.25/20} 53. Bxh5 {+2.54/16} Kf6 {-3.71/19} 54. Be2
{+2.63/16} Be8 {-4.16/17} 55. Kd4 {+2.68/16} Bf7 {-4.16/19} 56. h5 {+3.17/17}
Kg7 {-4.22/19} 57. f5 {+3.27/17} Kf6 {-4.93/19} 58. h6 {+8.33/19} Bg8 {-5.68/17
} 59. Bh5 {+8.33/17} Kxf5 {-6.04/21} 60. Bf7 {+8.93/17} Bh7 {-6.04/22} 61. Bc4
{+17.47/18} Kf6 {-6.04/24} 62. Bd3 {+15.65/15} Bxd3 {-6.04/28} 63. Kxd3 {
+327.34/5} c6 {-6.04/31} 64. Kd4 {+327.40/1} Kf7 {-6.04/32} 65. Kc5 {+327.42/1}
Kg6 {-6.54/32} 66. Kxc6 {+327.44/1} Kxh6 {-7.04/32} 67. b5 {+327.46/1} Kg7 {
-7.54/32} 68. b6 {+327.48/1} Kh8 {-7.54/32 Xboard adjudication} 1-0
[Event "WBEC10 Premier Division"]
[Site "OPTERON-244A"]
[Date "2005.06.10"]
[Round "12.4"]
[White "Movei 0.08.306"]
[Black "Aristarch 4.50"]
[Result "1-0"]
[PlyCount "57"]
[EventDate "2005.??.??"]
[TimeControl "40/2400:0"]
1. b4 d5 2. Bb2 Bg4 3. h3 {-0.25/13} Bh5 4. c4 {-0.25/12} Nf6 {+0.44/12} 5.
Qa4+ {-0.13/13} c6 {+0.44/13} 6. cxd5 {-0.01/13} Qxd5 {+0.40/13} 7. Nc3 {
-0.08/14} Qd6 {+0.42/12} 8. g4 {-0.09/13} Bg6 {+0.38/12} 9. Nf3 {-0.13/12} b5 {
+0.48/12} 10. Qa5 {+0.06/13} e6 {+0.03/14} 11. a4 bxa4 {+0.43/11} 12. b5 {
+0.21/12} Nd5 {+0.45/11} 13. Bg2 {+0.00/11} Nb4 {+0.17/12} 14. O-O {+0.50/12}
h5 {+0.19/11} 15. g5 {+0.78/13} Be7 {-0.95/13} 16. Ba3 c5 {-1.16/13} 17. Bxb4 {
+1.42/13} cxb4 {-1.56/13} 18. Nh4 {+1.67/13} Qf4 {-1.43/13} 19. Nxg6 {+1.82/12}
fxg6 {-1.46/13} 20. e3 {+2.13/12} Qxg5 {-2.67/15} 21. Ne4 Qh6 {-2.90/15} 22.
Ng3 h4 {-3.08/14} 23. Qc7 hxg3 {-3.81/14} 24. Bxa8 {+3.52/11} Nd7 {-4.23/14}
25. Bc6 {+4.49/13} O-O {-4.34/14} 26. fxg3 {+4.74/13} Rd8 {-4.55/14} 27. Bxd7 {
+4.97/14} Qxh3 {-4.97/14} 28. Rf2 {+5.51/13} Bg5 {-6.54/14} 29. Rxa4 {
+6.36/12 Black resigns} 1-0
>
>>>You can download the games in
>>>
>>>http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/
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