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Subject: Re: Are anti-crooked or anti-cheating sistem safe?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 08:05:11 06/17/05

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On June 17, 2005 at 10:40:01, Pablo Ignacio Restrepo wrote:

>Hello
>I wonder if the anti-cheating by chess computer asistence, into Internet Chess
>Clubs has any safety.

Not really.  They can detect task-switching when you run the ICC interface and a
chess engine on the same computer, but many use their home computer to connect
to the server, and a laptop to run the engine, which makes detection much more
difficult if not impossible.

TEchnology has reached the point that it is even possible for someone to show up
at a tournament hall in person and still cheat without detection.  CCD cameras
are very small, one could be used to broadcast the chess position to a remote
accomplice that uses a computer to calculate the reply and then it could be sent
back via discrete audio...


>In my humble opinion, there are cheaters en mass playing into very important
>Internet Chess Club making an strong Elo.
>Look a simple example I have evaluated: I to keep the name of the club and the
>chess players for respect, but .............
>I dont belive in many human beings elo into Internet Chess Clubs
>I have been studing games by myself that looks was playing as a human but before
>a deep evaluation my conclution is simple.
> "One of them made a computer asistence".
>Finally ............ How is possible that the rank of a human chess player that
>was fighting for the Word Human Chess Champion,  has 326 minus elo that other
>human chess player that is not stronger that him? and there are many many
>examples like its.
>
>
>Look an simple example> What do you think ?
>
>[Event " ___ 5 0"]
>[Site " ____ ____ ____"]
>[Date "2005.06.16"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White " I.M."] Human
>[Black " ____"] A sure cheater
>[Result "0-1"]
>[ECO "C40"]
>[WhiteElo "--"]
>[BlackElo "--"]
>[PlyCount "--"]
>[EventDate "2005.--"]
>[TimeControl "---"]
>
>1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 f5 3. Nxe5 Qf6 4. d4 d6 5. Nc4 fxe4 6. Nc3 Qg6 7. f3 exf3 8.
>Qxf3 Nc6 9. Bd3 Qg4 10. Qe3+ Kf7 11. O-O+ Nf6 12. Ne4 b5 13. Ncd2 h6 14. Bxb5
>Bd7 15. Bc4+ Kg6 16. Bd3 Kf7 17. Bc4+ Kg6 18. Rf3 Nxe4 19. Nxe4 Kh7 20. Rf7
>Qd1+ 21. Bf1 Ne7 22. Nf6+ Kg6 23. Nxd7 Kxf7 24. b3 Nf5 25. Qe4 Qxd4+ 26. Qxd4
>Nxd4 27. Bb2 Nxc2 28. Rc1 Ne3 29. Rxc7 Be7 30. Bd3 Rhc8 31. Rb7 Ke6 32. Ba3 Rc3
>33. Bb5 Rc2 34. Bd3 Rxg2+ 35. Kh1 Rc8 36. Be4 Rxa2 {White resigns} 0-1
>
>[D]rnbqkbnr/pppp2pp/8/4pp2/4P3/5N2/PPPP1PPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq f6 0 3
>
>[D]r1b2b1r/p1p2kpp/2np1n2/1p6/2NPN1q1/3BQ3/PPP3PP/R1B2RK1 w - b6 0 13
>
>[D]r4b1r/p1pb1Rpk/2np3p/8/2BPN3/4Q3/PPP3PP/R1Bq2K1 w - - 0 21
>
>[D]2r5/pR1Nb1p1/3pk2p/8/4B3/BP2n3/r6P/7K w - - 0 37
>
>
>My own conclution:
>
>1/ White was a real human being and international master.
>2/ Black played with chess computer asistence across infinite analisis, broking
>the cadence that could discover for example, and engine as deep-trap.
>2/Internet chess sistem of defense are  a failure.
>Note. That chess player played without C . !!!! Incredible !!!!
>
>Best regard,
>Pablo



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