Author: Günther Simon
Date: 11:13:18 06/17/05
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On June 17, 2005 at 14:04:41, Dann Corbit wrote:
>On June 17, 2005 at 02:36:15, Günther Simon wrote:
>
>>On June 16, 2005 at 20:59:15, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>On June 16, 2005 at 20:17:12, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 16, 2005 at 16:55:53, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On June 16, 2005 at 03:47:53, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I dont buy it.
>>>>>>The engines had to play all kind of weird stuff.
>>>>>>For example Shredder had to play the positions after 1.d4 b5 2.e4 a6 or 1.e4 b6
>>>>>>2.d4 e6 with black and several times 1.b4 and 1.g4 with white.
>>>>>
>>>>>Shredder used its own book and learning files (or possibly it was pure
>>>>>learning?). Shredder 9 UCI was used with all defaults. Games were played under
>>>>>Arena.
>>>>
>>>>I don`t have the UCI version of Shredder 9 but I thought Shredder can not use
>>>>it`s own book under Arena.
>>>>I honestly don`t think the new Shredder book plays lines like 1.d4 e5? or 1.d4
>>>>b6 2.e4 b5? with black.
>>>>
>>
>>Of course, Shredder UCI only uses its own book in its native GUI
>>and Shredder CB won't play under Arena.
>>(It still can do position learning independent from the GUI, though)
>
>Shredder moved immediately for the first few moves, so if it did not find its
>own book, it must have been running off of learning. Notice (for instance) in
>this game that Shredder is not thinking at the start:
>
>[Event "TT"]
>[Site "DCORBIT64"]
>[Date "2005.06.10"]
>[Round "1"]
>[White "Fruit_massy-intel-profile"]
>[Black "Shredder9UCI"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "A41"]
>[Opening "Neo-Old Indian"]
>[Time "16:03:02"]
>[Variation "Modern, 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.Nf3"]
>[TimeControl "600+5"]
>[Termination "normal"]
>[PlyCount "89"]
>[WhiteType "program"]
>[BlackType "program"]
>
>1.c4 g6 2.d4 Bg7 3.Nf3 d6 4.Nc3 e5 5.dxe5 {(d4xe5 d6xe5 Qd1xd8+ Ke8xd8 e2e4
>Nb8c6 Bc1e3 Nc6d4 000 c7c5 Nc3b5 Ng8e7 Nf3g5 Rh8f8 Ng5xh7) +0.71/12 24}
Dann, it is much more likely that you had not disabled all Arena books?
Guenther
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