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Subject: Re: Is WCCC 2005 fair?

Author: Sune Fischer

Date: 15:53:56 06/17/05

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On June 17, 2005 at 08:25:01, Christopher Conkie wrote:

>The WCCC will show no insight whatsoever for chess engines abilities while these
>anomalies exist.

Yes but short tournament show little to no insight anyway due to the statistical
uncertainties. Think of it as a sport rather than science.

There are however numerous basement tournaments done, so I see no faul in a
single sports tournament here or there for those that enjoy that.

>The championships are in effect.....meaningless.
>
>It is a very piric victory to be declared World Champion on the basis of having
>the best hardware and not the best chess engine.

Anyone who understands anything about computer chess knows speed is a factor,
e.g. when was the last time a single cpu engine won a major tournament?

I think the problem is not so much fairness though, the problem is that these
"details" fade quickly; Next week you'll be reading on chessbase how commercial
engine X totally outsearched little hobby engine Y. You'll have to dig deep
seven links away to figure out that commercial engine X actually had a 4x speed
advantage!
It's very misleading IMO, but whether it is deliberate deception or just plain
ignorance of the journalists I can't say.

So are they better because they use quads, or can they use quads because they
are better?
I would hold it's a bit of both.

-S.



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