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Subject: Re: Is WCCC 2005 fair?

Author: Madhavan

Date: 20:44:59 06/17/05

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On June 17, 2005 at 14:58:00, Christopher Conkie wrote:

>Hello,
>Thank you for all your answers, whoever you may be. I thought long and hard
>about what I wanted to say.
>
>I should not like you all to think that my post was antagonisic as it is
>something that I have a long held and very firm belief in.
>
>There fore I will try to answer since I started this, all at once in one post.
>
>Lance
>
>>Its the best combination of many other things, including the best book
>
>Human games have no place in computer chess IMHO. If I want to see a human game
>I would go and watch humans play.
>
>Dann
>
>>If the goal of the contest is to try to find the combination that plays the >strongest chess, then it is well achieved by the current format.
>
>I think that the world championship should be about who made the best engine
>only that performed in the competition under equal conditions.
>
>>At the end of the contest we literally have no idea which of the programs is >strongest (from the data supplied during the event).
>
>What a pity! I totally agree with this statement. It is true, we don't find out
>and that is why I fear for the future of computer chess.
>
>Charles
>
>>As far as results being "meaningless", this is not true. The point of it is >not to decide what people should go out and buy for their PC. The point is to >provide a competition that will all researchers in the field to test there >efforts.
>
>Ask ChessBase if that is true. Not me. Why do you think they sponsor the event?
>For fun?
>
>>Also, these algorithms are quite applicable to other fields of science. I do >not see why you want to hold back progress in these fields inorder to see >which program is best on the PC at this single point in time.
>
>The ICCA ground to a screeching halt in 2003 and has done nothing much since for
>computer chess. It pains me to say it as a Scotsman is in charge (or at least
>has a major say in it)
>
>>My guess is that you didn't understand the point of the tournament.
>
>Believe me, I do. I have my own firmly held beliefs and I have nothing to gain
>from those beliefs, they are only honest observations.
>
>Mike
>
>To all of what you say, I say, fair enough but what a pity. No development takes
>place where people have no morality left and money rules only.
>
>"Madhavan"
>Most of what you say is to me is completely illogical and mostly rude.

Please Point me out,where?
and rude?where?

>>Special appearance fees will also be given to the programmer by organisers >ICGA.
>
>How do you know this? Show me how you know this.

Yes it was done last year,where "IGCA" gave programmers special sponshorship of
500$ or something,go through CCC archives,



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