Author: Sune Fischer
Date: 01:56:45 06/18/05
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On June 18, 2005 at 01:03:04, Uri Blass wrote: >On June 17, 2005 at 18:53:56, Sune Fischer wrote: > >>On June 17, 2005 at 08:25:01, Christopher Conkie wrote: >> >>>The WCCC will show no insight whatsoever for chess engines abilities while these >>>anomalies exist. >> >>Yes but short tournament show little to no insight anyway due to the statistical >>uncertainties. Think of it as a sport rather than science. >> >>There are however numerous basement tournaments done, so I see no faul in a >>single sports tournament here or there for those that enjoy that. >> >>>The championships are in effect.....meaningless. >>> >>>It is a very piric victory to be declared World Champion on the basis of having >>>the best hardware and not the best chess engine. >> >>Anyone who understands anything about computer chess knows speed is a factor, >>e.g. when was the last time a single cpu engine won a major tournament? > >I think that in 1999 when Shredder 1 cpu came first and Ferret,Junior,Fritz >failed inspite of having more processors. > >see http://www.mark-weeks.com/chess/99wc$tix.htm Yes and this is 2005 :) Although I think The King also managed to do so in a more recent tourney. Still these seem to be the exceptions rather than the rule. >Note only that the winners of future events are also better with a single cpu >so results do not prove that speed is a factor. You need proof speed is a factor?? :) I seem to remember you yourself pleeding for an operator of Movei with faster hardware than your own at just about every CCT event. ;) >If you can show me that superior engines with one cpu failed to win >championships because they did not support more than one cpu that it will be >more convincing. I think with Junior and Zappa on quads in CCT6 it would have been a whole different ball of wax. Zappa (and Hiarcs on single!) tied the main event but Crafty on a quad won the playoffs. >I do not claim that speed is not an important factor but only that results of >tournaments do not prove it. Hehe I claim they do prove it. :) I mean you can find exceptions sure, but that doesn't really do much dispute the general assertation that speed helps. -S. >Uri
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