Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 03:07:13 06/18/05
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On June 18, 2005 at 04:56:45, Sune Fischer wrote: >On June 18, 2005 at 01:03:04, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On June 17, 2005 at 18:53:56, Sune Fischer wrote: >> >>>On June 17, 2005 at 08:25:01, Christopher Conkie wrote: >>> >>>>The WCCC will show no insight whatsoever for chess engines abilities while these >>>>anomalies exist. >>> >>>Yes but short tournament show little to no insight anyway due to the statistical >>>uncertainties. Think of it as a sport rather than science. >>> >>>There are however numerous basement tournaments done, so I see no faul in a >>>single sports tournament here or there for those that enjoy that. >>> >>>>The championships are in effect.....meaningless. >>>> >>>>It is a very piric victory to be declared World Champion on the basis of having >>>>the best hardware and not the best chess engine. >>> >>>Anyone who understands anything about computer chess knows speed is a factor, >>>e.g. when was the last time a single cpu engine won a major tournament? >> >>I think that in 1999 when Shredder 1 cpu came first and Ferret,Junior,Fritz >>failed inspite of having more processors. >> >>see http://www.mark-weeks.com/chess/99wc$tix.htm > >Yes and this is 2005 :) > >Although I think The King also managed to do so in a more recent tourney. >Still these seem to be the exceptions rather than the rule. > >>Note only that the winners of future events are also better with a single cpu >>so results do not prove that speed is a factor. > >You need proof speed is a factor?? :) > >I seem to remember you yourself pleeding for an operator of Movei with faster >hardware than your own at just about every CCT event. ;) > >>If you can show me that superior engines with one cpu failed to win >>championships because they did not support more than one cpu that it will be >>more convincing. > >I think with Junior and Zappa on quads in CCT6 it would have been a whole >different ball of wax. >Zappa (and Hiarcs on single!) tied the main event but Crafty on a quad won the >playoffs. > >>I do not claim that speed is not an important factor but only that results of >>tournaments do not prove it. > >Hehe I claim they do prove it. :) >I mean you can find exceptions sure, but that doesn't really do much dispute the >general assertation that speed helps. That's on the one hand. On the other hand, in none of the recent WCCC contests has the machine with the most MIPS come off the winner. (Look at the Cilkchess, Zugzwang, P.Conners, etc. entries). So just throwing a billion-gazillion horsepower at it won't make it a winner.
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