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Subject: Re: Has Thomas Gaksch become co-author of Fruit?

Author: Gabor Szots

Date: 10:22:58 06/18/05

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On June 18, 2005 at 13:11:27, Bryan Hofmann wrote:

>On June 18, 2005 at 11:30:05, Gabor Szots wrote:
>
>>An excerpt from the readme of the new Fruit:
>>
>> "added PV-node extensions (this is from Toga), e.g. extending
>>  recaptures only at PV nodes.  Not sure if these extensions help; if
>>  they do, we all need to recognise Thomas Gaksch's contribution to
>>  the community!"
>>
>>In my opinion it does not matter whether they help. In my interpretation Fabien
>>uses something Thomas invented or something from his code. The same what Thomas
>>did (only to much less extent).
>>This adds to the confusion and controversion. What do we have now: two engines
>>or two personalities? Or more? Fruit 2.1 based on Toga II based on Fruit 2.0?
>>Ridiculous. The whole GPL is ridiculous.
>
>
>Why, do you want to follow the teachings of only one mind. GPL uses the concept
>that more then one brain is better the a single brain.

Does GPL also use the concept that one code is better than starting from
scratch?

>
>Would you call Crafty this? Crafty uses EGTB's like many other programs and that
>chunk of code was written by Nalimov.
>

Did Nalimov write that code for his own fun only or also for use in chess
programs?

>
>>Maybe Fabien intended to implement these PV-node extensions anyway. Thomas did
>>it _for him_ (!) and now Fabien has to refer to Thomas otherwise he would be a
>>thief!
>>
>>I can only recommend to all authors not to publish their source code. At least
>>not if their engine plays too well. Maybe it is too late.
>
>There are and have been several chess engines that were written with more then
>one individual involved. I fail to see any reasoning behind this statement.
>

Those individuals deliberately chose one another for a joint venture.



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