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Subject: Re: Games: Fruit 2.1 against CM10k Lucifuge

Author: Madhavan

Date: 02:11:40 06/19/05

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On June 19, 2005 at 01:35:16, Graham Banks wrote:

>On June 19, 2005 at 00:25:30, Madhavan wrote:
>
>>On June 18, 2005 at 19:01:37, Graham Banks wrote:
>>
>>>On June 18, 2005 at 18:14:46, Marc D wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 18, 2005 at 18:11:34, Graham Banks wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On June 18, 2005 at 17:57:07, Marc D wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Fruit 2.1 - CM10k Lucifuge
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                              CM10k    Fruit
>>>>>>1 CM 10k Lucifuge       3,5/6 · ·· ·· =01110
>>>>>>2 Fruit 2.1             2,5/6 =10001 · ·· ··
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>6 games of 20 played
>>>>>>Level: 40/10
>>>>>
>>>>>Are you prepared to post your Lucifuge settings? Perhaps I'll put them into the
>>>>>CM10th Showdown if you wish!
>>>>>
>>>>>Graham.
>>>>
>>>>If it turns out to be any good i will do that.
>>>>But first i have to do a bit of testing to make it safe :-)
>>>>
>>>>Marc
>>>
>>>
>>>In hindsight, probably best to leave it as editing the tournament round by round
>>>has been very time consuming and I can't face doing it all again!
>>>When the tournament's finished, there might be a few settings including yours
>>>that I could try out against the field.
>>>
>>>Regards, Graham.
>>
>>I'd like to create my own chessmaster personality,can you give tips of which to
>>change [increase,decrease]since there are so many parameters,can you post some
>>setting showing the difference between the default chessmaster personality and
>>user's top chessmaster personality
>>
>>thanks.
>
>Hi Madhavan,
>
>If you look in the thread just below, I've posted all the CM10th settings
>currently in my tournament. Here are the default settings so that you can
>compare.
>
>
>[ENGINE]
>Name=CM10th Default
>
>opp=100 opn=100 opb=100 opr=100 opq=100 myp=100 myn=100 myb=100 myr=100 myq=100
>cc=100 mob=100 ks=100 pp=100 pw=100 cfd=0 sop=100 avd=0 rnd=0 sel=10 md=99
>
>My ideas are not necessarily the best, but here we go if you're interested!
>
>Material values don't need drastic altering, but mine reflect my belief that in
>computer chess, the queens in particular should be valued more highly than
>usual. I've valued the queen at 10.7 (pawns at 1.1)
>Also as a piece is in most case more valuable than three pawns, I value pawmns
>at 1.1 and minor pieces at 3.4
>In computer chess I also believe that in most cases a rook is worth slightly
>more than minor piece and two pawns, thus my rook value of 5.8
>
>Positional values
>CM10th gave me the initial impression of being very good at flank play, but
>control of the centre wasn't valued highly enough. I'd increase both own and
>opponent's control of the centre, but my how much? Probably to 110 or so.
>CM10th is quite active, so own mobility shouldn't be increased too much if at
>all. The opponent's mobility should be increased slightly to restrict his
>activity, probably to about 110.
>CM10th's king safety is vastly improved compared to CM9000, so doesn't need to
>be increased as drastically. Probably 120-140 range. As a competent attacker and
>because too much emphasis on king attack could detract from other areas of play
>I'd have opponents king safety somewhere between 100-125.
>Passed pawns are an area of real intrigue. CM10th doesn't handle the opponents
>passed pawns as well as it should and sometimes doesn't even handle its own
>passed pawns well! Therefore I wouldn't place too much extra importance on its
>own passed pawns (100-110), but motre importance on the opponents (120-150)
>Pawn weakness isn't too bad and doesn't need too much adjusting, probably
>between 105-120 for both.
>
>Best selectivity seems to be 14.
>
>I wouldn't tinker with the material/positional weighting.
>
>Some prefer to set the attack/defence setting to a small negative value. This
>encourages the swapping off of material as opposed to keeping it on the board.
>It has nothing to do with aggressive/passive play.


Thanks a lot,Graham.
I will try to create a different new chessmaster 9000 personalities[I dont have
chessmaster 10000,sorry]

thanks for posting the settings in another thread.

I plan to create 10-20 different settings plus the default one,put all in a
tournament and I will do the same test against different engines.

It sure must be a huge testing amount,I will report the settings if i find
something great about its play.

is blitz 3 good for testing chessmaster personality?I hate long time controls
because I have got many other games to play :)

Did you notice different style of play in all those user created chessmaster
personality?did they perform well,better than the default one?

I usually run testing when i'm away.

thanks


>Hope this helps,
>Graham.



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