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Subject: Re: Games: Fruit 2.1 against CM10k Lucifuge

Author: Graham Banks

Date: 03:32:11 06/19/05

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On June 19, 2005 at 05:11:40, Madhavan wrote:

>On June 19, 2005 at 01:35:16, Graham Banks wrote:
>
>>On June 19, 2005 at 00:25:30, Madhavan wrote:
>>
>>>On June 18, 2005 at 19:01:37, Graham Banks wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 18, 2005 at 18:14:46, Marc D wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On June 18, 2005 at 18:11:34, Graham Banks wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On June 18, 2005 at 17:57:07, Marc D wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Fruit 2.1 - CM10k Lucifuge
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                              CM10k    Fruit
>>>>>>>1 CM 10k Lucifuge       3,5/6 · ·· ·· =01110
>>>>>>>2 Fruit 2.1             2,5/6 =10001 · ·· ··
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>6 games of 20 played
>>>>>>>Level: 40/10
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Are you prepared to post your Lucifuge settings? Perhaps I'll put them into the
>>>>>>CM10th Showdown if you wish!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Graham.
>>>>>
>>>>>If it turns out to be any good i will do that.
>>>>>But first i have to do a bit of testing to make it safe :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>Marc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>In hindsight, probably best to leave it as editing the tournament round by round
>>>>has been very time consuming and I can't face doing it all again!
>>>>When the tournament's finished, there might be a few settings including yours
>>>>that I could try out against the field.
>>>>
>>>>Regards, Graham.
>>>
>>>I'd like to create my own chessmaster personality,can you give tips of which to
>>>change [increase,decrease]since there are so many parameters,can you post some
>>>setting showing the difference between the default chessmaster personality and
>>>user's top chessmaster personality
>>>
>>>thanks.
>>
>>Hi Madhavan,
>>
>>If you look in the thread just below, I've posted all the CM10th settings
>>currently in my tournament. Here are the default settings so that you can
>>compare.
>>
>>
>>[ENGINE]
>>Name=CM10th Default
>>
>>opp=100 opn=100 opb=100 opr=100 opq=100 myp=100 myn=100 myb=100 myr=100 myq=100
>>cc=100 mob=100 ks=100 pp=100 pw=100 cfd=0 sop=100 avd=0 rnd=0 sel=10 md=99
>>
>>My ideas are not necessarily the best, but here we go if you're interested!
>>
>>Material values don't need drastic altering, but mine reflect my belief that in
>>computer chess, the queens in particular should be valued more highly than
>>usual. I've valued the queen at 10.7 (pawns at 1.1)
>>Also as a piece is in most case more valuable than three pawns, I value pawmns
>>at 1.1 and minor pieces at 3.4
>>In computer chess I also believe that in most cases a rook is worth slightly
>>more than minor piece and two pawns, thus my rook value of 5.8
>>
>>Positional values
>>CM10th gave me the initial impression of being very good at flank play, but
>>control of the centre wasn't valued highly enough. I'd increase both own and
>>opponent's control of the centre, but my how much? Probably to 110 or so.
>>CM10th is quite active, so own mobility shouldn't be increased too much if at
>>all. The opponent's mobility should be increased slightly to restrict his
>>activity, probably to about 110.
>>CM10th's king safety is vastly improved compared to CM9000, so doesn't need to
>>be increased as drastically. Probably 120-140 range. As a competent attacker and
>>because too much emphasis on king attack could detract from other areas of play
>>I'd have opponents king safety somewhere between 100-125.
>>Passed pawns are an area of real intrigue. CM10th doesn't handle the opponents
>>passed pawns as well as it should and sometimes doesn't even handle its own
>>passed pawns well! Therefore I wouldn't place too much extra importance on its
>>own passed pawns (100-110), but motre importance on the opponents (120-150)
>>Pawn weakness isn't too bad and doesn't need too much adjusting, probably
>>between 105-120 for both.
>>
>>Best selectivity seems to be 14.
>>
>>I wouldn't tinker with the material/positional weighting.
>>
>>Some prefer to set the attack/defence setting to a small negative value. This
>>encourages the swapping off of material as opposed to keeping it on the board.
>>It has nothing to do with aggressive/passive play.
>
>
>Thanks a lot,Graham.
>I will try to create a different new chessmaster 9000 personalities[I dont have
>chessmaster 10000,sorry]
>
>thanks for posting the settings in another thread.
>
>I plan to create 10-20 different settings plus the default one,put all in a
>tournament and I will do the same test against different engines.
>
>It sure must be a huge testing amount,I will report the settings if i find
>something great about its play.
>
>is blitz 3 good for testing chessmaster personality?I hate long time controls
>because I have got many other games to play :)
>
>Did you notice different style of play in all those user created chessmaster
>personality?did they perform well,better than the default one?
>
>I usually run testing when i'm away.
>
>thanks
>
> I'll email you all the CM9000 settings I have plus the logos if the email address in your profile is correct.
You'd best ignore the CM10th stuff I just posted as it doesn't apply to CM9000.
Test at the time control that best suits you. I've never been a fan of blitz.
You'd be better off going for 40 moves in 10 minutes rather than "time in ..."

Graham.
>>Hope this helps,
>>Graham.



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