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Subject: Re: ...the usual hype...

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 03:57:43 06/19/05

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On June 19, 2005 at 06:43:00, Joachim Rang wrote:

>On June 19, 2005 at 02:24:52, Roger D Davis wrote:
>
>>Since Fruit is just a notch down from Shredder and Fritz,
>
>Data? I've seen nothing which remotely allows such a conclusion. I'm quite sure
>Fruit 2.1 is about 100 Elo-Points behind Shredder 9. This is a very tough gap.

I am not so sure and I saw better result than it for fruit.
It is probably weaker than Shredder9 but may be better than all other commercial
programs based on results that I read if you ignore positional learning and book
learning(I guess Fruit does not have it today but it is no problem for Fabien to
add it).

one of the results is beating Fritz8 31-19

http://wbforum.volker-pittlik.name/viewtopic.php?t=2867

<snipped>
>>I'm curious about the directions that programmers might pursue to develop Fruit
>>to the point of being strongest in the world. Can it be done? How can it be
>>done? What's the best way to do it? Would it have to be done in steps? What are
>>they?
>>
>>Roger
>
>
>I don't think that will happen. I'm even not sure if it could happen. SMK is a
>damn good programmer I'm not sure whether 20 programmers together are able to
>catch him.

I think that Fabien is significantly better programmer than SMK and other and
the fact that some buggy version of fruit(that Fabien still had not the time to
fix) is already so close to catch Shredder9's level suggest that Fruit may be
even better than Shredder9 if Fabien only fix Fruit's bugs

Uri



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