Author: Uri Blass
Date: 05:22:39 06/19/05
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On June 19, 2005 at 08:12:54, Joachim Rang wrote: >On June 19, 2005 at 06:57:43, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On June 19, 2005 at 06:43:00, Joachim Rang wrote: >> >>>On June 19, 2005 at 02:24:52, Roger D Davis wrote: >>> >>>>Since Fruit is just a notch down from Shredder and Fritz, >>> >>>Data? I've seen nothing which remotely allows such a conclusion. I'm quite sure >>>Fruit 2.1 is about 100 Elo-Points behind Shredder 9. This is a very tough gap. >> >>I am not so sure and I saw better result than it for fruit. >>It is probably weaker than Shredder9 but may be better than all other commercial >>programs based on results that I read if you ignore positional learning and book >>learning(I guess Fruit does not have it today but it is no problem for Fabien to >>add it). >> >>one of the results is beating Fritz8 31-19 >> >>http://wbforum.volker-pittlik.name/viewtopic.php?t=2867 > >yeah I saw that, but i's only blitz and still not reliale. You will see in the >end with longer time controls Fruit will be perhaps the best freeware engine but >weaker than Shredder, Fritz and Junior for sure. I wonder how can you be sure without enough games. I think that it is too early to know about longer time control. Fruit may be weaker than Fritz and Junior but also may be better than Shredder (note that the interesting question for me is testing from nunn type positions and not testing with books when book learning or positional learning can be decisive). Uri
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