Author: Madhavan
Date: 08:01:50 06/20/05
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On June 20, 2005 at 10:59:54, Sune Larsson wrote: >On June 20, 2005 at 10:47:43, Madhavan wrote: > >>On June 20, 2005 at 10:42:53, Sune Larsson wrote: >> >>>On June 20, 2005 at 10:13:55, Madhavan wrote: >>> >>>>This guy claims Adams can beat hydra,he has produced enough nonsense in his >>>>article to chessbase,since we all know that match is probably going to end in a >>>>draw either by match fixing or playing few game and later gambling it to equal >>>>score. >>>> >>>>In any case Hydra is favourite. >>> >>> >>> Nonsense? Why so disrespectful - and just how do you read his article? I find >>>this: >>> >>>"...he *might* achieve a *draw*, that means 3:3. **Maybe** he can even beat >>>Hydra, if..." >> >> >>I havent read the whole article as I just noticed some headlines and a few >>description. >> >>subject title is all that matters,clearly claims "Adams can beat Hydra" instead >>of 3:3 >> >>see the subject title later the content. > > > So, do you think this subject title comes from GM Nickel - or from Chessbase? > > "Before you make a move you must learn to sometimes sit on your hands..." It comes from you,thats how you were doing. > /S > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>>/S >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2462 >>>> >>>> >>>>Some deficits of Hydra were also seen in the recent PÂL/CSS-Freestyle Tournament >>>>on playchess.com, where the sea monster didn't even reach the quarter finals. >>>> >>>>Nickel: Well, this is of course a hot potato since Hydra as in correspondence >>>>chess had to play against strong players, amongst them even some FIDE >>>>grandmasters who could use engines as in "advanced chess". I was also surprised >>>>by Hydra's failure, but on consideration I realised that all programs including >>>>Shredder 9, Fritz 8 and Junior 9 which were also running on strong machines, got >>>>into trouble, when playing without human advice. Probably this wouldn't have >>>>happened with shorter time limits, let's say 15 minute games or even shorter, >>>>but in one hour games (one hour per player plus 15 sec. per move), human chess >>>>competence can already show its qualities in tandem with engines. By the way, I >>>>also participated in this very interesting event and didn't manage to reach the >>>>quarter finals either. However in the process I met Hydra again and played a >>>>nice game which was drawn after 102 moves. The sea monster must have gotten >>>>tired of attacking my fortress without success. >>>> >>>>Once again what is your bet on the match Hydra-Adams...? >>>> >>>>Nickel: Okay, it will very hard for any human being, but as I always hold on for >>>>humanity, and especially as Michael Adams is a gifted positional player, I think >>>>he might achieve a draw, that means 3:3. Maybe he can even beat Hydra, if he is >>>>able to completely control his emotions and avoid any unclear complications. >>>>Should this be so, he could succeed where Kasparov failed when playing Deep Blue >>>>eight years ago. This would mean that humans have learned since then even though >>>>the computers didn't get weaker, but obviously stronger since that time. Hydra, >>>>don't forget, is supposed to be stronger than good old Deep Blue!
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