Author: Madhavan
Date: 08:13:26 06/20/05
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On June 20, 2005 at 11:11:54, Sune Larsson wrote: >On June 20, 2005 at 11:01:50, Madhavan wrote: > >>On June 20, 2005 at 10:59:54, Sune Larsson wrote: >> >>>On June 20, 2005 at 10:47:43, Madhavan wrote: >>> >>>>On June 20, 2005 at 10:42:53, Sune Larsson wrote: >>>> >>>>>On June 20, 2005 at 10:13:55, Madhavan wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>This guy claims Adams can beat hydra,he has produced enough nonsense in his >>>>>>article to chessbase,since we all know that match is probably going to end in a >>>>>>draw either by match fixing or playing few game and later gambling it to equal >>>>>>score. >>>>>> >>>>>>In any case Hydra is favourite. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Nonsense? Why so disrespectful - and just how do you read his article? I find >>>>>this: >>>>> >>>>>"...he *might* achieve a *draw*, that means 3:3. **Maybe** he can even beat >>>>>Hydra, if..." >>>> >>>> >>>>I havent read the whole article as I just noticed some headlines and a few >>>>description. >>>> >>>>subject title is all that matters,clearly claims "Adams can beat Hydra" instead >>>>of 3:3 >>>> >>>>see the subject title later the content. >>> >>> >>> So, do you think this subject title comes from GM Nickel - or from Chessbase? >>> >>> "Before you make a move you must learn to sometimes sit on your hands..." >> >>It comes from you,thats how you were doing. > > > Right - and the subject title you were refering to like this: > >"subject title is all that matters,clearly claims "Adams can beat Hydra" instead >of 3:3 >see the subject title later the content." > > > Do you think the subject title you are refering to comes from > GM Nickel - or from ChessBase? GM Nickel of course.Just as i mentioned that one came from you. I also said Nickel wrote enough nonsense in his "article" to chessbase. > /S > > > > >> >>> /S >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>>>/S >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2462 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Some deficits of Hydra were also seen in the recent PÂL/CSS-Freestyle Tournament >>>>>>on playchess.com, where the sea monster didn't even reach the quarter finals. >>>>>> >>>>>>Nickel: Well, this is of course a hot potato since Hydra as in correspondence >>>>>>chess had to play against strong players, amongst them even some FIDE >>>>>>grandmasters who could use engines as in "advanced chess". I was also surprised >>>>>>by Hydra's failure, but on consideration I realised that all programs including >>>>>>Shredder 9, Fritz 8 and Junior 9 which were also running on strong machines, got >>>>>>into trouble, when playing without human advice. Probably this wouldn't have >>>>>>happened with shorter time limits, let's say 15 minute games or even shorter, >>>>>>but in one hour games (one hour per player plus 15 sec. per move), human chess >>>>>>competence can already show its qualities in tandem with engines. By the way, I >>>>>>also participated in this very interesting event and didn't manage to reach the >>>>>>quarter finals either. However in the process I met Hydra again and played a >>>>>>nice game which was drawn after 102 moves. The sea monster must have gotten >>>>>>tired of attacking my fortress without success. >>>>>> >>>>>>Once again what is your bet on the match Hydra-Adams...? >>>>>> >>>>>>Nickel: Okay, it will very hard for any human being, but as I always hold on for >>>>>>humanity, and especially as Michael Adams is a gifted positional player, I think >>>>>>he might achieve a draw, that means 3:3. Maybe he can even beat Hydra, if he is >>>>>>able to completely control his emotions and avoid any unclear complications. >>>>>>Should this be so, he could succeed where Kasparov failed when playing Deep Blue >>>>>>eight years ago. This would mean that humans have learned since then even though >>>>>>the computers didn't get weaker, but obviously stronger since that time. Hydra, >>>>>>don't forget, is supposed to be stronger than good old Deep Blue!
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