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Subject: Re: What's the deal with Bionic?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 08:57:19 02/15/99

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On February 15, 1999 at 10:13:49, Jeff Anderson wrote:

>It doesn't send the 'Hello from Crafty x.xx' at the beginning does it?
>Jeff
>
>On February 15, 1999 at 07:56:53, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>
>>On February 15, 1999 at 05:43:19, Jeff Anderson wrote:
>>
>>>I've read at the Gambitsoft site that a new chess engine called Bionic has
>>>source that may be almost completely copied from Crafty.  I have heard nothing
>>>about this on CCC.  Can give me the whole of the story?
>>
>>The whole story is more like a full history. You arrived too late. You are like
>>a guy saying " I have heard nothing about Titanic, what happened to it?" Well,
>>this is too long to reduce, but maybe we can say that a long discussion followod
>>Bionic appearance as much some people thought it was not very ethical to win a
>>tournament with a program that supposedly is scarcely something more than Crafty
>>and made use of a tehcnique that gave to it an enourmous advantage. From there
>>followed a weually loing thread about what should be a parameter to stablish a
>>difference between a program and his father-program. And so and so.
>>Take a look at post posted 3 to 4 weeks ago.
>>fernando

Just wait a few days.  I'll give you _another_ eye-popping revelation.  There
is _another_ new program that appears to be a nearly line-for-line copy of
crafty.  It is very strong, and the people testing it have _no idea_ that it
really is crafty.  Who?  wait for another day as I have some more comparisons
to do.  But I can tell you that many of the character strings in this engine
have simply been converted to "German".  But the engine is the same, the book
is the same, the hashing is the same, the learning files are the same, the
binary book format is the same, the constant bitmap patters (pre-initialized by
the compiler) are the same, the procedure names are the same, and the list goes
on.

Really sad news, IMHO...

But it seems some folks have zero morals...



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