Author: Drexel,Michael
Date: 23:42:34 06/21/05
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On June 21, 2005 at 22:48:47, Robin Smith wrote: >On June 21, 2005 at 18:39:06, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On June 21, 2005 at 16:13:31, Robin Smith wrote: >> >>>On June 21, 2005 at 15:30:03, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On June 21, 2005 at 14:19:44, Robin Smith wrote: >>>> >>>>>On June 21, 2005 at 14:11:23, Mark Young wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On June 21, 2005 at 14:04:37, Ted Summers wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>To sum it up " He played a drawish opening in a tactic way. " Not a good idea >>>>>>>when computers are able to hang with the best and proving themself as better >>>>>>>than humans in open tactical positions. However I still think GM Adams can pull >>>>>>>it together and Win or Draw this match. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>[D] r2q1rk1/1pp3pp/p2b4/nP1p1p1b/2PPn3/3B1N1P/P1QN1PP1/1RB1R1K1 b - - 0 17 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Having reached this position, we seemed to be watching the beginning of the end >>>>>>>for Adams in the first game but hopefully not the match. >>>>>> >>>>>>C4! was a killer positional shot. >>>>> >>>>>c4 was a good move, but hardly a "killer". >>>>> >>>>>>It seems clear GM Adams missed this move when he played Na5. >>>>> >>>>>Perhaps Adams miissed it, but it hardly seems "clear", since Black is still OK >>>>>afterwards. His loss happened later. >>>>> >>>>>-Robin >>>>The problem here is that the kingside is already a bit open. One does _not_, as >>>>a human, allow the computer to open _both_ sides of the board in the same game. >>> >>>Agreed. But that had already happened _before_ black played Na5. Hydra was >>>forcing the position open on the queenside even before Na5 and there was already >>>no way for Adams to stop it. >>> >>>>It invites a debacle such as this. Of course, he made a couple of tactical >>>>errors around the point where the rook on C8 was hanging, but he was already in >>>>the wrong kind of position... >>>> >>>>All the comps were suggesting the same moves as played by Hydra, so there was no >>>>real surprises from the white side, just black making an error here, an error >>>>there, before long he fell off the rim of the canyon. >>> >>>Adams clearly made a mistake, Rc7, but from a pure chess point of view it is not >>>clear to me that he had made any other mistakes prior to this, and I find people >>>saying things like he "played like a 2300 player" and "an error here, an error >>>there" etc most disrespectful, all the more so since he didn't make the kind of >>>gross blunders other super GM's have made against computers. Of course everyone >>>knows he did not end up in the type of position that is comfortable to play >>>against a computer; but it is easier for a determined player with the white >>>pieces to create an open and messy position than it is for black to keep it >>>closed and positional. >>> >>>-Robin >> >> >>He was guilty of a different type of blunder. Namely of playing 1. ... e5 >>against the computer. That was blunder 1. Why enter an open position? > >Because 1...e5 has been Adams defense of choice for 15 years. He knows it like >the back of his hand. Perhaps it is unfortunate for Adams that 1...e5 is the >defense he knows best, but that is a fact. If he had played something else >people would have been complaining "Why did Adams play an opening that is not >his main weapon of choice". Adams lost because Hydra is stronger, plain and >simple > >>Would you consider a baseball pitcher that pitches fast, high and outside to Babe Ruth >>to be "a professional player that made a small mistake" or "a professional >>player that made a bad blunder?" > >I consider baseball analogies irrelevant. > >>The usual idea is to play to your opponent's weaknesses, not his strengths... > >Right. But the usual idea is _also_ to play to your _own_ strengths. Adams >strength is 1...e5. He sometimes plays 2...Nc6 but in this game played the >"drawish" 1...Nf6. A good choice and an opening he knows very well and not a >"blunder" by any stretch of the imagination. Nonsense, this wasn´t a good choice at all. The human is superior in developing long term plans. Therefore it was outright stupid to play the Petroff defence Michael
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