Author: Henrik Dinesen
Date: 04:45:47 06/22/05
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On June 22, 2005 at 06:32:07, Uri Blass wrote: >On June 22, 2005 at 06:26:18, Henrik Dinesen wrote: > >>On June 22, 2005 at 04:37:31, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On June 22, 2005 at 03:39:54, Sally Weltrop wrote: >>> >>>>Spare me the lecture about we need a million games. You see a boxer and you know >>>>just by how he fights and who he is fighting that he is got that something >>>>"special". >>>> >>>>Remember my words cause they will ring true. >>>> >>>>That's without learning capacity and no EGTB's >>> >>>I do not expect fruit without learning to be in the top 5 of the ssdf today. >>> >>>I expect Shredder9,Shredder8,Shredder7.04,Junior9 and Deep Fritz8 to have bigger >>>ssdf rating. >>> >>>I do not claim that all of them are better than fruit(Fritz and Junior may be >>>weaker) but considering the fact that fritz and Junior use learning I expect >>>them to have bigger ssdf rating. >>> >>>Uri >> >> >>Hi Uri, >> >>The last part is a bit unclear to me. >>Do you mean "_if_ learn was implemented in Fritz and Junior"? I don't beleive >>that you're suggesting that it's already (if that's the case, please point to >>where such learning is hidden). >> >>Regards, >>Henrik > >I think that learning is hidden in the chessbase interface. > >Fritz and Junior are using book learning and try to repeat lines that it win and >to avoid lines that it lost. > >If Fruit also does it then they have no learning advantage relative to Fruit but >my assumption is that Fruit does not do it because based on my understanding >"without learning capacity" includes also without being able to use book >learning(of course Fruit is not allowed to use the chessbase interface in the >ssdf tests). > >Uri Ok, I see. That's different from the learningfiles of the type that Shredder and Hiarcs uses. When playing engine games I use the chessprogram8 (Fritz etc), and always books ctg books. This goes for Fruit and other UCI's too. Using individual books for each engine and book-learning on, the learning is applied to each book, but not the engines.
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