Author: Will Singleton
Date: 13:25:00 02/15/99
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On February 15, 1999 at 15:39:08, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On February 15, 1999 at 15:12:19, Will Singleton wrote: > >>On February 15, 1999 at 13:10:09, Rémi Coulom wrote: >> >>>On February 15, 1999 at 12:00:44, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On February 15, 1999 at 04:43:47, Rémi Coulom wrote: >>>> >>>>>It is a long time since I have considered releasing the source code of The Crazy >>>>>Bishop since I think that it would be an excellent opportunity to share ideas >>>>>with other programmers. However, the recent Bionic scandal and the older Gunda >>>>>case show that doing so could cause problems. I would like to publish it anyway, >>>>>since most tournament organizers are now aware of this problem and include >>>>>necessary rules to avoid double entries. Anyway, if anyone here thinks that I >>>>>should not publish the source code of TCB, I would like to hear from him(her) >>>>>before I take this irreversible and possibly harmful decision. >>>>> >>>>>Remi >>>> >>>> >>>>You want an opinion? Don't do it. Because we have people with the ethics of >>>>a politician, the morals of a $2.00 prostitute, and the reasoning ability of a >>>>2 year old, all rolled into one. >>>> >>>>I received the 'novag award' for releasing the source of Crafty. I won't be >>>>surprised if I receive the 'dumb-ass of the year' award in another year or two, >>>>for that same reason. Releasing the source will be a big help to those that are >>>>starting off. But since we are plaged with copy-cats, that same source will be >>>>copied verbatim and then used to smack these same beginners when they play in >>>>their first tournament. >>>> >>>>This isn't a particularly pretty picture, IMHO... >>> >>>Thanks for your reply. You are probably the most experienced person in these >>>matters and your opinion convinced me that I should not release my code. I thank >>>also the other people who gave their opinion. I think I am going to try to find >>>other better ways to exchange ideas. >>> >>>Remi >> >> >>Remi, >> >>I support your decision. The main thing is to exchange ideas, which can be done >>through the appropriate journals, as well as here in this forum. >> >>Thanks for bringing it up. >> >>Will > >The sad thing is I know how much source code helped _me_. I started writing >my first chess engine in 1968. by 1972 I had the source for "Coko IV" to look >at (I just asked) and then later the source to chess 4.6. Ken released the >source to an early 'belle' version that several used for various experiments. > >And now we realize that, thanks to a few folks, we have to 'dry up this well of >information' completely. Which is sad. _very_ sad. I agree that it's sad. When I finally figured out that there was source code available to look at (via the net), I certainly took advantage of it. But the main benefit *for me* is reading the available discussions and journals, and the source is secondary. For the serious chess programmer, all he really needs is a starting place, and we have that in the many, many freeware progs that are available. You just got too good, Bob. Will
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