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Subject: Re: Why should we help ? (was How to compile Fruit 2.1)

Author: Torstein Hall

Date: 14:39:03 06/22/05

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On June 22, 2005 at 10:34:27, Daniel Mehrmannn wrote:

>On June 22, 2005 at 09:38:54, milix wrote:
>
>>On June 22, 2005 at 09:05:32, Daniel Mehrmannn wrote:
>>
>>>On June 22, 2005 at 07:36:50, Andrey Popov wrote:
>>>
>>>>>There is really no reason why you should compile fruit.
>>>>There are many things that somebody wants to change and experiment with. Only
>>>>some of them are tunable via UCI options. I also wonder which of five novations
>>>>in 2.1 after 2.0 is responsible for such huge improvement. I want to turn off
>>>>them one by one and compare. There are no options in Fruit 2.1 to do it.
>>>>>
>>>>>All other things/reasons looks not so happy for me.
>>>>I suspect you think about yet another clone ;)
>>>>I think nobody who reads CCC will produce new clones,
>>>>because there is already no fun (he will not be the first guy who made a clone)
>>>>and there are no chances to hide it.
>>>
>>>Thats a little bit more complicated. If the users see that we're helping each
>>>user  may more and more users starting request. You really don't know the
>>>reasons of each user why they are want this. You can't control this too and may
>>>become more problems. Clones are one point yes, but the list is long.
>>>
>>>So we need a general hard line to handle it fair for all. Otherwise a user could
>>>say "You helped Mr. X, why not me ?" And so on.
>>>
>>>So my opinion is all should get the same support, here specialy no support.
>>>
>>>daniel
>>
>>This is totally against the reason Fruit released source code. If someone is
>>prohibited to try his own ideas what is the point of releasing source code of
>>chess engines?
>>
>>
>
>This support of such users has nothing to do with GPL.
>Basicly i have no problem if someone try out own ideas.
>
>As a condition you should understand chessprograming and at least c/c++.
>If this fails may we have playing kids and nothing more.
>
>Sorry for these hard words ! My english is not so good as i could explain it
>better.
>
>Of course this is no personal attack to any CCC member !
>
>greetings
>Daniel

You have probably wasted more time arguing, than giving a little hint or help.
If you do not want to help him, fine, but please do not fill the message board
with useles messages.





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