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Subject: Re: Hydra wins game 3 in spectacular fashion

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 13:21:11 06/23/05

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On June 23, 2005 at 15:28:26, Peter Berger wrote:

>On June 23, 2005 at 15:15:27, Matthew Hull wrote:
>
>>On June 23, 2005 at 15:04:35, Peter Berger wrote:
>>
>>>On June 23, 2005 at 14:46:26, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 23, 2005 at 12:44:31, Peter Kappler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Utterly marvelous choice of opening by black again.  Think he is going to figure
>>>>this out anytime soon?  :)
>>>
>>>I disagree - the closed Ruy Lopez was *the* logical choice for Adams IMHO.
>>
>>
>>How can it be logical when white simply opens the closed Ruy?
>
>Open and closed are too simple categories anyway IMHO.



But maybe it's sufficient
>to answer that there is *no* opening setup against 1. e4 that forces a closed
>position .. - the closed Ruy is one of the most reasonable tries.

Unfortunately Computers handle the closed Ruy Lopez with white very strong as
numerous examples have shown.
The best strategies and plans for white are often easy to find for the machines.
They are not subtle enough.
There are also pawn pushes available to open the position or to strengthen the
position.

A strong machine plays this opening almost perfectly.

So I don“t agree.
The Berlin Defence is a much more reasonable choice.

Michael


>
>
>>>But
>>>kudos to the Hydra book author for choosing 9. d4.
>>>
>>>I think this was a very impressive game and among the best I have seen played by
>>>a computer against a player of Adams's strength. One gets the impression that
>>>Hydra maybe simply is the better chessplayer.
>>
>>
>>I'm thinking any other machine would have played the same moves on nice
>>hardware.  I don't think we've seen what Hydra can do yet, since the games so
>>far seem no different than Shredder or Junior games.
>
>This is obviously starting with the conclusion before looking at the data, but
>even if this were true, I don't really get your point.
>
>Peter



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