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Subject: Re: Hydra 3000?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 22:21:43 06/23/05

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On June 24, 2005 at 01:13:31, Terry McCracken wrote:

>On June 24, 2005 at 00:56:57, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On June 24, 2005 at 00:33:45, Amir wrote:
>>
>>>On June 24, 2005 at 00:25:03, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 24, 2005 at 00:06:37, Amir wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On June 23, 2005 at 23:45:59, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On June 23, 2005 at 19:56:17, Amir wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>With what score Hydra would have to be beat Adams to have 3000 performance
>>>>>>>rating? (if it's even possible at all). Hydra also played a match against Evgeny
>>>>>>>Vladimirov. What was Hydra's performance rating in that match?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Can we calculate Hydra's FIDE rating from these two matches against humans?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No you can't calculate Hydras' rating FIDE or otherwise on so few games and get
>>>>>>anything meaningful.
>>>>>
>>>>>You can calculate performance rating of the players in the match or tournament.
>>>>>You can also probably calculate provisional FIDE rating. After this match, Hydra
>>>>>will have at least 13 games against FIDE rated players.
>>>>
>>>>Then why ask the question...the part in brackets? Also, you can't get a
>>>>meaningful performance rating or FIDE or whatever and now I'm wasting my time on
>>>>you repeating myself!
>>>>
>>>>Would you like me to answer it again?? Are you trying to be annoying??
>>>>
>>>>Or are just trolling like I stated before?
>>>
>>>"Performance" ratings are not "meaningful" but you can still calculate them for
>>>a match or tournament. My question was very clear: with what score Hydra will
>>>have to beat Adams to get close to 3000 performance rating in *this* match. The
>>>question was not about "meaning" but of math. If anyone knows how to calculate
>>>performance rating, he can  answer my question, regardless how meaningless the
>>>answer is.
>>
>>
>>Hydra needs to score exactly 4.92 points out of 6 games to get performance of
>>3000.
>>
>>I used the following site to calculate performance
>>
>>http://www.uschess.org/ratings/calculator.html
>>
>>I printed 6 times 2737(Adams rating) and changed the total score until I got
>>exactly 3000 after clicking performance.
>>
>>Uri
>
>That would be 3000 USCF performance, yes? FIDE would be about 50-100pts. lower.
>
>Terry

I see no difference.
I used adams fide rating and not adams uscf rating and I think performace should
be the same.

here is a link for fide calculator

http://www.fide.com/ratings/calculator_rp.phtml

It seems not to know to calculate performance because even 6 out of 6 will give
adams performance of 2812.
 6 out of 6 against players with average rating of 2000 give you performance of
only 2075

for comparison 1 out of 6 against the same players with rating 2000 give you
performance of 1727.
It seems that fide performance calculator is biased against players who score
more than 50%

Uri



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