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Subject: Re: Hydra 3000?

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 00:24:37 06/24/05

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On June 24, 2005 at 03:14:22, Amir wrote:

>On June 24, 2005 at 03:02:39, Ed Schröder wrote:
>
>>On June 24, 2005 at 01:19:48, Amir wrote:
>>
>>>On June 24, 2005 at 01:13:31, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 24, 2005 at 00:56:57, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On June 24, 2005 at 00:33:45, Amir wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On June 24, 2005 at 00:25:03, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On June 24, 2005 at 00:06:37, Amir wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On June 23, 2005 at 23:45:59, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On June 23, 2005 at 19:56:17, Amir wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>With what score Hydra would have to be beat Adams to have 3000 performance
>>>>>>>>>>rating? (if it's even possible at all). Hydra also played a match against Evgeny
>>>>>>>>>>Vladimirov. What was Hydra's performance rating in that match?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Can we calculate Hydra's FIDE rating from these two matches against humans?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>No you can't calculate Hydras' rating FIDE or otherwise on so few games and get
>>>>>>>>>anything meaningful.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You can calculate performance rating of the players in the match or tournament.
>>>>>>>>You can also probably calculate provisional FIDE rating. After this match, Hydra
>>>>>>>>will have at least 13 games against FIDE rated players.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Then why ask the question...the part in brackets? Also, you can't get a
>>>>>>>meaningful performance rating or FIDE or whatever and now I'm wasting my time on
>>>>>>>you repeating myself!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Would you like me to answer it again?? Are you trying to be annoying??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Or are just trolling like I stated before?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Performance" ratings are not "meaningful" but you can still calculate them for
>>>>>>a match or tournament. My question was very clear: with what score Hydra will
>>>>>>have to beat Adams to get close to 3000 performance rating in *this* match. The
>>>>>>question was not about "meaning" but of math. If anyone knows how to calculate
>>>>>>performance rating, he can  answer my question, regardless how meaningless the
>>>>>>answer is.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hydra needs to score exactly 4.92 points out of 6 games to get performance of
>>>>>3000.
>>>>>
>>>>>I used the following site to calculate performance
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.uschess.org/ratings/calculator.html
>>>>>
>>>>>I printed 6 times 2737(Adams rating) and changed the total score until I got
>>>>>exactly 3000 after clicking performance.
>>>>>
>>>>>Uri
>>>>
>>>>That would be 3000 USCF performance, yes? FIDE would be about 50-100pts. lower.
>>>
>>>Why? Is the formula to calculate performance rating in the tournament different?
>>>If not, Adams FIDE rating (2737) was entered in the calculator, not his USCF
>>>rating.
>>
>>FYI, USCF is not the same thing as FIDE. Subtract 100-150 points to get a form
>>of compatibility.
>
>Obviously I know that USCF is not the same thing as FIDE, but the formula to
>calculate **PERFORAMCE** rating might be same in all cases. Do you know what
>**PERFORAMCE** rating means in a match or tournament? There would be a simple
>formula to calculate performance rating.  2737 is Adam's FIDE rating, not his
>USCF rating

Ed understands this, and no it's not the same.

I will not argue the point, the estimate I gave you is fairly accurate.
If you use the FIDE calculator you'll get about a 2800 rating performance, but I
agree this is a bit low.

Terry

P.S. For now I'll treat you like a new member rather than a troll, if you return
the same courtesy.
Can we reach an agreement?



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