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Subject: Re: What would it take to beat Hydra??

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 18:42:46 06/24/05

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On June 24, 2005 at 21:14:55, Arnon Yogev wrote:

>On June 24, 2005 at 20:40:27, Terry McCracken wrote:
>
>>On June 24, 2005 at 20:28:28, Derek Paquette wrote:
>>
>>>"Some" lucky users on chessbase have done it, but not many, and I'm not even
>>>sure if its the newest version with the best hardware which has done that.  For
>>>a human to beat hydra, especially Adams, they would not only have to come up
>>>with an amazing opening, come up with an amazing middlegame but play every
>>>subsequent move after that so that the advantage is clear and that hydra could
>>>not force a draw.  Hydra seems to invincible when it comes to fighting humans,
>>>it seems impossible atleast to me, that any human could beat it, based on its
>>>performance to date, as well as its theoretical potential ie, fide rating.
>>
>>Topalov had Hydra pinned to the matt, but let the deamon up and only got a draw.
>>Hydra has lost some corr. games as well.
>In the time Hydra played these games(Bilbao)against Topalov&Co it was still
>using the old hardware(16 clusters), and naturally was inferior to the current
>version(1.06Bc).
>Note also that the lost games over the playchess server were achieved by other
>machines(Shredder, Fritz etc...).
>GM Arno Nickel played and won 2 games against the machine, though he was allowed
>to use computer assistance(and he did, ofcourse).

I know that...still the machine is similar and not invincible.

>>I'd like to see Topalov take on Hydra or Anand...Kramnik maybe or Leko, the best
>>would be Kasparov but not much hope of that.
>>
>>Adams just isn't in good enough form to slay this creature, it may turn out to
>>be a shutout with Hydra not losing a single game.
>>
>>Adams should have just played quiet chess going for draws.



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