Author: Peter Kappler
Date: 08:54:21 06/26/05
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On June 26, 2005 at 11:41:24, Sandro Necchi wrote: >On June 26, 2005 at 10:56:19, Peter Kappler wrote: > >>On June 26, 2005 at 01:48:28, Sandro Necchi wrote: >> >>>On June 26, 2005 at 00:06:47, Peter Kappler wrote: >>> >>>>On June 25, 2005 at 20:42:42, Steve Glanzfeld wrote: >>>> >>>>>[Event "4th Intl.CSVN"] >>>>>[Site "Leiden NED"] >>>>>[Date "2004.04.24"] >>>>>[Round "5"] >>>>>[White "Shredder"] >>>>>[Black "Hydra"] >>>>>[Result "1-0"] >>>>>[ECO "B76"] >>>>>[PlyCount "61"] >>>>>[EventDate "2004.??.??"] >>>>> >>>>>1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 g6 5. Nc3 Bg7 6. Be3 d6 7. f3 Nf6 8. Qd2 >>>>>O-O 9. O-O-O Nxd4 10. Bxd4 Be6 11. Kb1 Qc7 12. h4 Rfc8 13. h5 Qa5 14. h6 Bh8 >>>>>15. a3 Nd7 16. f4 Bxd4 17. Qxd4 Nf6 18. f5 gxf5 19. Nd5 Bxd5 20. exd5 Qc5 21. >>>>>Qd3 Kh8 22. Qxf5 Rg8 23. Rh3 Qc8 24. Qf2 Qf8 25. Bd3 Rg5 26. Bf5 Qg8 27. g4 Qd8 >>>>>28. Qe3 Rxg4 29. Bxg4 Nxg4 30. Qg5 Qg8 31. Qxe7 1-0 >>>>> >>>>>http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=87303 >>>> >>>> >>>>Hydra recently won an 8-game match, 5.5-2.5 against Shredder. (A slower version >>>>of Hydra than the one Adams is facing.) >>> >>>I have already posted several times that the experimental Shredder version that >>>played against Hydra was heavely buggy (about 150 points weaker on long time >>>controls), so it would have lost the match against any strong engine too. >>> >> >>I must have missed these posts. Can you provide a few positions from the match >>where the current Shredder 9 plays a different move from the experimental >>version that lost to Hydra? > >One is more than enough: > >look game 6th when Shredder gave a piece for 2 pawns and lost the game. No >Shredder commercial version would play that move at any level. > >Sandro > You must be thinking of another game. Game 6 was a drawn rook and pawn ending. And I do think you need to give more than one example to support your claim. If it was truly a 150-point bug, it should be easy to find several positions. It is strange that Stefan makes no mention of such a serious bug in his post-match report. http://www.shredderchess.de/abudhabi.html -Peter >> >>-Peter >> >> >>> >>>This means that we cannot use this match to compare Shredder with Hydra. >>> >>> >>>Sandro >>>> >>>>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=1875 >>>> >>>> >>>>-Peter
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