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Subject: Re: Hunting Hydra

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 23:48:44 06/26/05

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On June 27, 2005 at 02:17:29, Peter Skinner wrote:

>On June 26, 2005 at 22:22:39, Earl Fuller wrote:
>
>>On June 26, 2005 at 20:53:53, Wayne Lowrance wrote:
>>
>>>On June 26, 2005 at 19:34:30, Earl Fuller wrote:
>>>
>>>>The question still must be answered, Hydra vs Shredder.
>>>>Some of you think Hydra is all but unbeatable,__i do not__:)
>>>>The match that is begging to be played now is of course, Shredder vs Hydra.
>>>>With Shredder on a state of the art computer that has been tested before the
>>>>match__:)__would be very interesting indeed. And not some old laptop.__:)
>>>>These people that have programed Shredder should hunt Hydra down and slay it.
>>>>Come on Shredder team, there is someone knocking at your door !___:)
>>>>earl
>>>
>>>There is this to consider, I believe that Hydra is programmed to beat S GM's.
>>>Shreddar I believe is programmed to beat comps  in the same vein that Crafty is
>>>best suited to play SGM's
>>>Hydra have Shredder for breakfast either way.
>>>
>>>Wayne
>>
>>Well i'm not so sure,__Shredder is the top pc program,___a match would be very
>>interesting and i wouldn't predict a winner either way, but i'd be rooting for
>>Shredder for sure___:)
>>earl
>
>There are _many_ GM's on ICC that make Shredder look like a complete idiot in
>games. These aren't even 2700+ level GM's either.
>
>I believe that Petrovich on ICC has the distinction of handing Shredder's it own
>ass on more than one occasion, and quite easily at that.
>
>Shredder is tuned for computer opponents, and Hydra is tuned for human players.
>Shredder would get killed in such a match. In fact I would go as far to say it
>wouldn't win a single game in the contest. It _might_ draw a game here and
>there.

I do not agree.
As far as I know petrovich did not play against the Shredder team.

You cannot know result of the shredder team against humans based on results of
the commercial version.

The comparison between commercial shredder and hydra is simply unfair because
people may buy shredder and train at home against it and they cannot do it
against hydra.

I can also add that it is possible that the GM's who beat shredder are simply
tuned against computer opponents when adams is tuned against human opponents so
even if many 2500-2600 GM's can beat Shredder it is still possible that adams
will lose to shredder.

Uri



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