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Subject: Re: hydra's blunder or no blunder?

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 11:24:15 06/27/05

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On June 27, 2005 at 03:34:47, Günther Simon wrote:

>On June 27, 2005 at 00:22:18, Madhavan wrote:
>
>>On June 26, 2005 at 13:57:57, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>
>>>On June 26, 2005 at 05:46:02, Günther Simon wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 26, 2005 at 04:18:35, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On June 26, 2005 at 03:58:39, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On June 25, 2005 at 20:18:38, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On June 25, 2005 at 19:45:53, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On June 25, 2005 at 19:43:04, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>[D]2r3k1/4pp1p/3p1bp1/p2P4/R1PB4/1r4P1/1P3P1P/3R2K1 b - - 0 24
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hydra played Kg7
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Most programs prefer Bxd4 and not Kg7 Bxf6+ Kxf6 Rd2 when it seems that white
>>>>>>>>>does not lose material.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I wonder if Hydra had a good reason to play Kg7 and Not Bxd4.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I know that black centralize the king but the question is if pawn that black can
>>>>>>>>win with Bxd4 is not more important.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I don't think it makes a big difference, White can't prevent the eventual
>>>>>>>exchange of Bishops. Kg7 imo was a good move as it was centralizing, the Bs were
>>>>>>>coming off and the b2 pawn history.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The b2 pawn is no hiostory after Kg7 Bxf6+ Kxf6 26.Rd2
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The question is what black does after that line.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If black goes for the b2 pawn by 26...Rcb8 then after a possible line like
>>>>>>Rxa5 Rxb2 Rxb2 Rxb2 Ra3 Rc2 Rf3+ Kg7 Rf4 I do not see the win for black.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>26...Rc5 is a possible alternative but I do not see how black win it after a
>>>>>>move like 27.h4.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>
>>>>>Hydra saw deeper.
>>>>
>>>>LOL running out of arguments?
>>>>
>>>>Guenther
>>>
>>>Are you just making stupid remarks, to annoy me? It would appear so. You should
>>>know I never run out of arguments.
>>
>>he makes stupid remarks to nearly everyone except to programmers who release
>>their engine that he would test.so far he has tested crappy little engines.
>>
>>>You're out of line and I would appreciate you adding something to the thread,
>>>rather than trying to provoke a fight.
>>
>>Yes,He always wanted to get into fight with every one,I don't know if he has any
>>attitude problem,or is he always like "this",this means he being so offensive.
>>
>>>If you want me to provide analysis to back up my position, this isn't the way to
>>>go about it.
>>
>>He wouldnt do that,really a hopeless person to deal with,the best way is to
>>"ignore" him,I did,he stopped fighting.
>>
>>I know you have provided a lot of opinion on chess programs and test suites.
>
>Ignorant little Madhavan, just stay away from things you haven't even read,
>like you once wanted to do. (Remember this thread is/was about the assessment
>of chess moves)
>
>Terry already admitted his wrong assessment here (1.5 hours after his
>answer to my post).
>
>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?433711
>
>Guenther

Yes, I made an error and corrected it, but your approach was wrong.

Terry



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