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Subject: Re: Question about Chrilly's chess code background

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 08:36:57 06/28/05

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On June 27, 2005 at 22:22:31, Robin Smith wrote:

>On June 27, 2005 at 02:54:38, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>
>>On June 26, 2005 at 21:29:30, K. Burcham wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I assume Chrilly wrote the Code for the Nimzo program.
>>>If this is true then what were his results from year to year when working with
>>>chess code against his competitors, Ed, Robert, etc...
>>>Was Chrilly winning some of the time, most of the time?
>>>How many times was Nimzo world champion?
>>>Is Chrilly an IM, GM..?
>>
>>Chrilly is a weak chess player.
>
>True; but then most strong chess programmers are weak chess players.
>
>>He has also no respect for human GMs at all.
>
>Then why is a human GM on the Hydra team? What support can you give for this
>claim?

I read more than once disrespectful comments about GMs from him. For example
after Bilbao.

>
>>>How come all of a sudden this Chrilly has a program that some say beats
>>>shredder, all of the worlds top programmers, and now can beat the number 7 super
>>>GM in the world.
>>
>>It´s very easy. Start a match between Fruit 2.1 on a 2 GHz against Shredder 9 on
>>200 Mhz. Shredder wouldn´t have a chance.
>>
>>This Hardware will always produce very strong chess in open positions.
>
>Yes. It seems to do pretty well in semi-open positions as well. Maybe time will
>tell about closed positions (if Hydra ever allows them).
>
>>Crafty on that Hardware would smash Adams as well.
>
>Adams would have won all 6 games by forfeit, Crafty won't run on that hardware.
>:-)

Bob can comment on this if he likes. I think it wouldn´t take him much time to
modify Crafty to run on a 64 Xeon processor cluster.
Certainly I talked only about the cluster without the FPGA cards.

>
>>Chrilly is IMO a worse chess programmer than SMK or Amir Ban or Frans Morsch.
>
>SMK, Amir Ban, and Frans Morsch (and others) are excellent programmers. However
>Chrilly has produced the strongest chess playing entity ever created, so your
>strong statement needs strong proof. What is your evidence; just because
>Michael Drexel says it? Can you support all these claims with anything other
>than opinion?
>
>Besides Chrilly knows things most other programmers do not; he understands
>electronics hardware and as well as the software. This allows him to do things
>others can't, and to enter a realm where other skills besides the ability to
>program PC's becomes important. Using these skills allows him to do things other
>programmers can't, just like knowing how to program allows programmers to do
>things others can't. This hardly seems like a reason to bash Chrilly's skill or
>accomplishment. I don't think SMK, Amir Ban, or Frans Morsch could have done
>what Chrilly has done.

I didn´t wrote and also do not think Chrilly is a worse programmer than the
above mentioned programmers. I wrote he is a worse chess programmer IMO.
I assume he started to work on Brutus because he didn´t see much chances to be
competitive anymore with Nimzo.

Michael

>
>-Robin
>
>>Michael
>>
>>
>> You think people in any other sport can all of a sudden beat
>>>the worlds best, when they have proven in the past they do not have world class
>>>talent.
>>>Of course if someone has the stats to show me that Chrilly was already world
>>>class programmer and was winning against world class programmers---then I will
>>>have learned about Chrilly. I am like many here, I do not know. So I would like
>>>for some of the chess program history buffs to fill me in on this guy that is
>>>kicking ass at the top.
>>>
>>>Also, now that Chrilly is on top, Frederic would you please tell Chrilly to comb
>>>his hair---if it will not comb---have him use some hair gel.
>>>
>>>kburcham



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