Author: Drexel,Michael
Date: 08:53:07 06/28/05
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On June 28, 2005 at 09:56:00, Matthew Hull wrote:
>On June 28, 2005 at 08:44:18, Terry McCracken wrote:
>
>>On June 28, 2005 at 03:41:22, Robin Smith wrote:
>>
>>>On June 27, 2005 at 23:38:46, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 27, 2005 at 22:24:57, Mark Ryan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On June 27, 2005 at 17:56:27, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On June 27, 2005 at 17:01:49, Dom Leste wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>yes adams wa very gracious it will only make hima better player even if he
>>>>>>>didnt prepare as well for this tournament.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I want hydra next punching bag to be Kramnik. I doubt it cause, kramnik would
>>>>>>>probably want hydra for a month to test it ROFL.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Dom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Why do you want keamnik?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It is better to have players with better results against computers like Smirin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>
>>>>>What is Smirin's record against computers?
>>>>>
>>>>>Mark
>>>>
>>>>We beated 4 computers in the result 5-3
>>>>He played against shredder,Tiger,Junior,Hiarcs at 60+10 if I remember the time
>>>>control correctly.
>>>>
>>>>I think that it was 2 or 3 years ago but I am not sure about the exact time.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>This was in 2002. Smirin played very well against the computers. Interestingly,
>>>just like Adams, Smirin used 1...e5 in the games where the computer opened 1.e4
>>>
>>>-Robin
>>
>>Unfortunately we'll never get certain CCC members to grasp that the problem
>>wasn't 1..e5 or 1.e4 they are just so certain of they're infallible
>
>
>[Event "Internet Challenge II"]
>[Site "?"]
>[Date "2002.04.28"]
>[EventDate "2002.??.??"]
>[Round "?"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[White "Ilya Smirin"]
>[Black "Gambit Tiger"]
>[ECO "A08"]
>[WhiteElo "2702"]
>[BlackElo "?"]
>[PlyCount "78"]
>
>1. Nf3 { comments from ICC live chat } d5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 c5 4. O-O Nc6 5. d3
>e5
>6. Nbd2 Be7 7. e4 O-O 8. c3 Bg4 9. h3 {GMR: Smirin is once again trying for
>a reversed King's Indian. He hopes that Tiger will close the center with
>d5-d4. Of course first the bishop
>on g4 has a decision to make.} 9... Bc8 {Time: 58:56. Menno: There are only
>five games in the online database.} 10. Re1
>{GMR: Smirin is still hoping for d5-d4, which would be the correct move here.}
>10... d4 11. Nc4 Qc7 {GMR: a2-a4 wwould be normal here, but it is probably not
>what Smirin was hoping for} 12. a4 {Black plan: Rab8, b6, then a6 and b6-b5
>with good play on the queenside} 12...Be6 13. Bd2 Nd7 {Time: 52:53. GMR:
>I don't like the bishop on e6.} 14. Qc2 {Christophe Theron:
>Last time the antihuman setting was ON, and it was a
>mistake. This time Shay has set it correctly (I hope). Anti-human is not what
>people believe it is. It has been designed to avoid human players that try to
>get a draw by closing the position and then moving a piece back and forth
>(happens a lot on chess servers).} 14... f6 15. Rec1 Nb6 {GMR: Not good. Now
>for example 16.Nxb6 Qxb6 17.c3-c4 is possible. After that White can turn his
>attention to the kingside.} 16. Nxb6 axb6 17. cxd4 cxd4 18. b4 {
>GMR: The isolated double pawn on the b-file is not so bad at this moment.}
>18... Qd7 {Mikhalevski: Did Ilya miss this double attack? Probably not.} 19. b5
>Na5 20. Bxa5 {GMR: I'm not too happy about the passive bishop on g2. How is it
>going to come into play?} 20... Rfc8 {GMR: Pretty "zwischenzug" (yes, it IS an
>English word). CT: My laptop crashed, it is 31 degrees here in Guadaloupe
>and it overheats. I'm back online now. I'm happy with how the game is going so
>far. I think that the antihuman setting would have hurt the program's play in
>this game. Tiger would have tried too hard to open the game, and too early.}
>21. Qd2 {Time: 40:46} 21... Rxa5 {GMR: Interesting... Pressure on a4. Black is
>clearly better, Nf3 and Bg2 are not in play. CT: I think I would have
>preferred bxa5 and then a bishop on b4, bt I'm not a strong player. It seems
>that Tiger wants to pressure the weak a pawn. Is it THAT important?} 22. h4
>Kf8 {GMR: Really?? CT: Huh... I have no idea why it played Kf8. Maybe some
>strong player will find a reason for it? :-( HDX: Sometimes computers make
>moves that seem odd and then when evaluated later serve a great tactical
>purpose.} 23. h5 Rca8 {Time: 35:44. CT: Looks like Tiger's bishop is going for
>b4 and c3 after all. Mikhalevski: maybe Qd1, Bb4, Rc4, trying to block the
>position. Then Bg2-f1-d3. CT: Smirin is going into time trouble. That is is
>much more a problem for a human player than for a computer.} 24. h6 g6 {
>Tiger was expecting the last move.} 25. Qc2 {Time: 24:44} 25... Bb4 {
>GMR: The pawn on h6 is going to become very weak at some stage.} 26. Qc7 {
>GMR: One could almost say Smirin has been positionally outplayed.} 26... Bc3 {
>Tiger is playing exactly like Christophe predicted.} 27. Qxb6 Qe7 {V. Mikhalevs
>ki: The f6 pawn has become a target, Black has to defend it. CT: Now that
>white's queen is in black's side I'm not sure anymore about what can happen...}
>28. Kh2 {CT: One thing I am sure here, the game is MUCH more interesting than
>the previous one!} 28... g5 {GMR: Cruel! But Black also has to watch out. What
>about 29.Rxc3 dxc3 Rc1, Rxc3 and Rc7? CT: I think Rxc3 can get white out of
>trouble... Unfortunately. Time: 20:40} 29. Nd2 {
>GMR: Smirin is looking for tactical counterplay. The motif is always Rc7} 29...
>Bxa1 {Draco: ??} 30. Rc7 Qd8 {
>CT: This does not look good for Gambit anymore...
>Time: 15:37} 31. Bh3 {
>GMR: Smirin is tactically quite brilliant. The kingside attack after 31...g4
>32.Bxg4 Bxg4 33.Qc5 looks deadly.} 31... g4 {GMR: Smirin has dug a deep
>tactical pit, and I think maybe he has caught a Tiger in it.} 32. Bxg4 {
>Mathias: NOW I understand the combination! Stefsias: Smirin has got real guts!
>Deep Fritz: White has won this game! Wilfred: Smirin for President! Time: 13:
>30} 32... Bxg4 33. Qc5+ {Frodo: Smirin has tamed the Tiger! Mathias: Chapeau
>for Smirin! GMR: A typical game against a computer: they are positionally
>superior to us humans, but we still have a tactical edge. CT: OK, so it seems
>that Bxa1 was a blunder.} 33... Ke8 34. Rxh7 {Time: 13:24 GMR: The pawn on h6
>would have been very weak in the endgame, but Tiger didn't make it so far. Now
>it is very strong.} 34... Rc8 35. Rh8+ {Time: 13:17} 35... Kf7 36. Rxd8 Rxc5
>37. h7 Rc8 38. Rxc8 Bxc8 39. h8=Q {Chuenthe: On behalf of humanity, thank you
>Smirin! Mendi: From Israel "Kol Akavod Smirin!!" Christophe Theron: Frankly, I
>liked this game more than the last game Tiger played against Smirin. At least
>the GM could feel some real pressure this time. I don't care if Tiger has
>lost the game, it was of very good quality and that's what counts. GAME
>OVER, Tiger resigned.} 1-0
This game is certainly nice but it does not support the claim Smirin is a better
Anti-Computer player than Adams today.
Hydra would have discarded 29...Bxa1?? in a fraction of seconds.
After 29...R5a7 for example it is white who has to fight for the draw with bleak
perspectives.
Michael
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