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Subject: Re: Hunting Hydra

Author: Sandro Necchi

Date: 12:42:55 06/28/05

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On June 27, 2005 at 09:01:45, Peter Skinner wrote:

>On June 27, 2005 at 03:10:02, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>
>>I don´t understand your argumentation:
>>
>>Shredder is tuned for computer (absolutely correct)
>>
>>Hydra is tuned for human players (I don´t fully agree, it was probably only
>>tuned for the Adams match)
>>
>>I don´t understand your conclusion Shredder therefore would get killed in such >a match. AFAIK know Hydra is a computer.
>>
>>Are you better informed than we are. Is Hydra a Turk with Bobby Fischer inside?
>>:)
>>
>>Michael
>
>Shredder has already been destroyed once by Hydra.

Yes, but it was a heavy buggy version.

>
>Sure the excuse has been offered that Shredder was a beta version and was
>extremely buggy. (Why play such a match with a non-stable version escapes logic,
>but ok... I'll buy it).

It would have been an excuse if I would have stated that we would have won with
a non buggy version, but I never said so.

Here is what I think:

I believe Hydra has the best chances to win against us, but we would have some
chances.

With a buggy version like the one we used we had 0 chances, so I hope we will
have another chance because it was not a match considering what we were forced
to use.

So, to let people know what happened you called an excuse?

I have learned something today too:-)

Sandro
>
>Even taking into account the "buggy version", Hydra dominated Shredder. It
>simply played at a level that a non-buggy Shredder could perform at. It is
>better tactically _and_ positionally.
>
>I would be willing to wager my kids to a Martha Stewart child labour factory
>that even a "stable" Shredder wouldn't take a single game from the same machine
>that faced Adams. From games that I have seen Shredder play at 120 0 on ICC vs
>GM's way below the level of Adams, Hydra would kill it positionally.
>
>While I would love to see the match happen, I think Junior would be a much more
>challenging opponent for Hydra. It is a positional program, and isn't just tuned
>for computer play.
>
>Peter



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