Author: Robin Smith
Date: 15:28:47 06/28/05
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On June 28, 2005 at 11:36:57, Drexel,Michael wrote: >On June 27, 2005 at 22:22:31, Robin Smith wrote: > >>On June 27, 2005 at 02:54:38, Drexel,Michael wrote: >> >>>On June 26, 2005 at 21:29:30, K. Burcham wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>I assume Chrilly wrote the Code for the Nimzo program. >>>>If this is true then what were his results from year to year when working with >>>>chess code against his competitors, Ed, Robert, etc... >>>>Was Chrilly winning some of the time, most of the time? >>>>How many times was Nimzo world champion? >>>>Is Chrilly an IM, GM..? >>> >>>Chrilly is a weak chess player. >> >>True; but then most strong chess programmers are weak chess players. >> >>>He has also no respect for human GMs at all. >> >>Then why is a human GM on the Hydra team? What support can you give for this >>claim? > >I read more than once disrespectful comments about GMs from him. For example >after Bilbao. I am curious about Chrilly; what _exactly_ did he say that was disrespectful towards GMs? BTW, I could say the same about you. Michael Drexel: "Therefore it was outright stupid <of Adams> to play the Petroff defence" -Robin >> >>>>How come all of a sudden this Chrilly has a program that some say beats >>>>shredder, all of the worlds top programmers, and now can beat the number 7 super >>>>GM in the world. >>> >>>It´s very easy. Start a match between Fruit 2.1 on a 2 GHz against Shredder 9 on >>>200 Mhz. Shredder wouldn´t have a chance. >>> >>>This Hardware will always produce very strong chess in open positions. >> >>Yes. It seems to do pretty well in semi-open positions as well. Maybe time will >>tell about closed positions (if Hydra ever allows them). >> >>>Crafty on that Hardware would smash Adams as well. >> >>Adams would have won all 6 games by forfeit, Crafty won't run on that hardware. >>:-) > >Bob can comment on this if he likes. I think it wouldn´t take him much time to >modify Crafty to run on a 64 Xeon processor cluster. >Certainly I talked only about the cluster without the FPGA cards. > >> >>>Chrilly is IMO a worse chess programmer than SMK or Amir Ban or Frans Morsch. >> >>SMK, Amir Ban, and Frans Morsch (and others) are excellent programmers. However >>Chrilly has produced the strongest chess playing entity ever created, so your >>strong statement needs strong proof. What is your evidence; just because >>Michael Drexel says it? Can you support all these claims with anything other >>than opinion? >> >>Besides Chrilly knows things most other programmers do not; he understands >>electronics hardware and as well as the software. This allows him to do things >>others can't, and to enter a realm where other skills besides the ability to >>program PC's becomes important. Using these skills allows him to do things other >>programmers can't, just like knowing how to program allows programmers to do >>things others can't. This hardly seems like a reason to bash Chrilly's skill or >>accomplishment. I don't think SMK, Amir Ban, or Frans Morsch could have done >>what Chrilly has done. > >I didn´t wrote and also do not think Chrilly is a worse programmer than the >above mentioned programmers. I wrote he is a worse chess programmer IMO. >I assume he started to work on Brutus because he didn´t see much chances to be >competitive anymore with Nimzo. > >Michael > >> >>-Robin >> >>>Michael >>> >>> >>> You think people in any other sport can all of a sudden beat >>>>the worlds best, when they have proven in the past they do not have world class >>>>talent. >>>>Of course if someone has the stats to show me that Chrilly was already world >>>>class programmer and was winning against world class programmers---then I will >>>>have learned about Chrilly. I am like many here, I do not know. So I would like >>>>for some of the chess program history buffs to fill me in on this guy that is >>>>kicking ass at the top. >>>> >>>>Also, now that Chrilly is on top, Frederic would you please tell Chrilly to comb >>>>his hair---if it will not comb---have him use some hair gel. >>>> >>>>kburcham
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