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Subject: Re: Question about Chrilly's chess code background

Author: Robin Smith

Date: 15:28:47 06/28/05

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On June 28, 2005 at 11:36:57, Drexel,Michael wrote:

>On June 27, 2005 at 22:22:31, Robin Smith wrote:
>
>>On June 27, 2005 at 02:54:38, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>
>>>On June 26, 2005 at 21:29:30, K. Burcham wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I assume Chrilly wrote the Code for the Nimzo program.
>>>>If this is true then what were his results from year to year when working with
>>>>chess code against his competitors, Ed, Robert, etc...
>>>>Was Chrilly winning some of the time, most of the time?
>>>>How many times was Nimzo world champion?
>>>>Is Chrilly an IM, GM..?
>>>
>>>Chrilly is a weak chess player.
>>
>>True; but then most strong chess programmers are weak chess players.
>>
>>>He has also no respect for human GMs at all.
>>
>>Then why is a human GM on the Hydra team? What support can you give for this
>>claim?
>
>I read more than once disrespectful comments about GMs from him. For example
>after Bilbao.

I am curious about Chrilly; what _exactly_ did he say that was disrespectful
towards GMs?

BTW, I could say the same about you.
Michael Drexel: "Therefore it was outright stupid <of Adams> to play the Petroff
defence"

-Robin

>>
>>>>How come all of a sudden this Chrilly has a program that some say beats
>>>>shredder, all of the worlds top programmers, and now can beat the number 7 super
>>>>GM in the world.
>>>
>>>It´s very easy. Start a match between Fruit 2.1 on a 2 GHz against Shredder 9 on
>>>200 Mhz. Shredder wouldn´t have a chance.
>>>
>>>This Hardware will always produce very strong chess in open positions.
>>
>>Yes. It seems to do pretty well in semi-open positions as well. Maybe time will
>>tell about closed positions (if Hydra ever allows them).
>>
>>>Crafty on that Hardware would smash Adams as well.
>>
>>Adams would have won all 6 games by forfeit, Crafty won't run on that hardware.
>>:-)
>
>Bob can comment on this if he likes. I think it wouldn´t take him much time to
>modify Crafty to run on a 64 Xeon processor cluster.
>Certainly I talked only about the cluster without the FPGA cards.
>
>>
>>>Chrilly is IMO a worse chess programmer than SMK or Amir Ban or Frans Morsch.
>>
>>SMK, Amir Ban, and Frans Morsch (and others) are excellent programmers. However
>>Chrilly has produced the strongest chess playing entity ever created, so your
>>strong statement needs strong proof. What is your evidence; just because
>>Michael Drexel says it? Can you support all these claims with anything other
>>than opinion?
>>
>>Besides Chrilly knows things most other programmers do not; he understands
>>electronics hardware and as well as the software. This allows him to do things
>>others can't, and to enter a realm where other skills besides the ability to
>>program PC's becomes important. Using these skills allows him to do things other
>>programmers can't, just like knowing how to program allows programmers to do
>>things others can't. This hardly seems like a reason to bash Chrilly's skill or
>>accomplishment. I don't think SMK, Amir Ban, or Frans Morsch could have done
>>what Chrilly has done.
>
>I didn´t wrote and also do not think Chrilly is a worse programmer than the
>above mentioned programmers. I wrote he is a worse chess programmer IMO.
>I assume he started to work on Brutus because he didn´t see much chances to be
>competitive anymore with Nimzo.
>
>Michael
>
>>
>>-Robin
>>
>>>Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> You think people in any other sport can all of a sudden beat
>>>>the worlds best, when they have proven in the past they do not have world class
>>>>talent.
>>>>Of course if someone has the stats to show me that Chrilly was already world
>>>>class programmer and was winning against world class programmers---then I will
>>>>have learned about Chrilly. I am like many here, I do not know. So I would like
>>>>for some of the chess program history buffs to fill me in on this guy that is
>>>>kicking ass at the top.
>>>>
>>>>Also, now that Chrilly is on top, Frederic would you please tell Chrilly to comb
>>>>his hair---if it will not comb---have him use some hair gel.
>>>>
>>>>kburcham



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