Author: gerold daniels
Date: 16:51:14 06/28/05
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On June 28, 2005 at 18:51:30, Zappa wrote: >On June 28, 2005 at 18:33:26, K. Burcham wrote: > >> >> >>Well it seems maybe things have changed. >>Has Hydra been given a huge amount of chess knowledge that Nimzo did not have? >>I assume that this chess knowledge came from several 2500+ GM. >> >>Or maybe I must now say that the top 20 Chess programs of today, if they played >>on Hydra hardware can beat a 2700+ GM most of the time. >> >>What about BamBam, Anaconda, Movei, etc...can these beat 2700+ Super GM on Hydra >>hardware? >> >>Wonder how much code was changed from Nimzo to Hydra that is strength related, >>or do we say it is only the depth? >> >>In other words if we have a 1000 game tournament with: >>Hiarcs 9, Crafty, Diep, Pro Deo, Shredder 9, Deep Fritz, Chess Master, Junior, >>Fruit, Chess Tiger, Gandalf, Hydra----and they all play on 3 gig AMD vs 3 gig >>AMD with same hash---what would the result be? >> >>kburcham > >I really don't think the Hydra match shed any new light on the strengths of the >computers for three reasons: > >1. Hydra played very few extremely impressive moves. Commentators that were >following the match found that 99% of its moves were predicted by Shredder, >Fritz, Junior, or even my humble Zappa. There was no evidence of incredible >tactical ability or positional knowledge. > >2. It's well known that computers are strong in open positions. Adams played to >open the board in every game - and paid for it. > >3. Adams didn't use his serious openings. For example, 4. g3 in the sicilian >etc. I don't blame Adams for this; he wants to save his novelties for wins >against Kasparov or whatnot. > >The conclusions I draw from the match are that Hydra is clearly among the top >programs today (with Fritz, Junior, and Shredder), and that Adams is one of the >worst anti-computer GMs around. But I don't think Hydra is significantly better >than other top programs, nor do I think humanity is impossibly behind the >computers at this point. > >anthony i agree with you all the way. Adams wasn,t prepared and i don,t think he really took these games as serious as a game vs. gm,s. he really didn,t lose anything. and gained a little cash. gerold.
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