Author: Drexel,Michael
Date: 23:42:29 06/28/05
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On June 28, 2005 at 18:16:44, Robin Smith wrote: >On June 28, 2005 at 11:36:57, Drexel,Michael wrote: > >>On June 27, 2005 at 22:22:31, Robin Smith wrote: >> >>>On June 27, 2005 at 02:54:38, Drexel,Michael wrote: >>> >>>>On June 26, 2005 at 21:29:30, K. Burcham wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I assume Chrilly wrote the Code for the Nimzo program. >>>>>If this is true then what were his results from year to year when working with >>>>>chess code against his competitors, Ed, Robert, etc... >>>>>Was Chrilly winning some of the time, most of the time? >>>>>How many times was Nimzo world champion? >>>>>Is Chrilly an IM, GM..? >>>> >>>>Chrilly is a weak chess player. >>> >>>True; but then most strong chess programmers are weak chess players. >>> >>>>He has also no respect for human GMs at all. >>> >>>Then why is a human GM on the Hydra team? What support can you give for this >>>claim? >> >>I read more than once disrespectful comments about GMs from him. For example >>after Bilbao. >> >>> >>>>>How come all of a sudden this Chrilly has a program that some say beats >>>>>shredder, all of the worlds top programmers, and now can beat the number 7 super >>>>>GM in the world. >>>> >>>>It´s very easy. Start a match between Fruit 2.1 on a 2 GHz against Shredder 9 on >>>>200 Mhz. Shredder wouldn´t have a chance. >>>> >>>>This Hardware will always produce very strong chess in open positions. >>> >>>Yes. It seems to do pretty well in semi-open positions as well. Maybe time will >>>tell about closed positions (if Hydra ever allows them). >>> >>>>Crafty on that Hardware would smash Adams as well. >>> >>>Adams would have won all 6 games by forfeit, Crafty won't run on that hardware. >>>:-) >> >>Bob can comment on this if he likes. I think it wouldn´t take him much time to >>modify Crafty to run on a 64 Xeon processor cluster. >>Certainly I talked only about the cluster without the FPGA cards. >> >>> >>>>Chrilly is IMO a worse chess programmer than SMK or Amir Ban or Frans Morsch. >>> >>>SMK, Amir Ban, and Frans Morsch (and others) are excellent programmers. However >>>Chrilly has produced the strongest chess playing entity ever created, so your >>>strong statement needs strong proof. What is your evidence; just because >>>Michael Drexel says it? Can you support all these claims with anything other >>>than opinion? >>> >>>Besides Chrilly knows things most other programmers do not; he understands >>>electronics hardware and as well as the software. This allows him to do things >>>others can't, and to enter a realm where other skills besides the ability to >>>program PC's becomes important. Using these skills allows him to do things other >>>programmers can't, just like knowing how to program allows programmers to do >>>things others can't. This hardly seems like a reason to bash Chrilly's skill or >>>accomplishment. I don't think SMK, Amir Ban, or Frans Morsch could have done >>>what Chrilly has done. >> >>I didn´t wrote and also do not think Chrilly is a worse programmer than the >>above mentioned programmers. I wrote he is a worse chess programmer IMO. > >Sounds like spliting hairs to me. Not at all. The best chess programmer is not necessarily the best programmer and vice versa. Michael >>I assume he started to work on Brutus because he didn´t see much chances to be >>competitive anymore with Nimzo. > >You know what they say about assumptions ..... ass_u_me (they make and ass out >of u and me). I think it would be safe to say he started to work on Brutus >because he wanted to. As to why only he can say; your assumption is only one of >a long list of possibilites. I can think of a dozen different reasons. > >-Robin > >>Michael >> >>> >>>-Robin >>> >>>>Michael >>>> >>>> >>>> You think people in any other sport can all of a sudden beat >>>>>the worlds best, when they have proven in the past they do not have world class >>>>>talent. >>>>>Of course if someone has the stats to show me that Chrilly was already world >>>>>class programmer and was winning against world class programmers---then I will >>>>>have learned about Chrilly. I am like many here, I do not know. So I would like >>>>>for some of the chess program history buffs to fill me in on this guy that is >>>>>kicking ass at the top. >>>>> >>>>>Also, now that Chrilly is on top, Frederic would you please tell Chrilly to comb >>>>>his hair---if it will not comb---have him use some hair gel. >>>>> >>>>>kburcham
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