Author: Drexel,Michael
Date: 23:53:04 06/28/05
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On June 28, 2005 at 18:28:47, Robin Smith wrote: >On June 28, 2005 at 11:36:57, Drexel,Michael wrote: > >>On June 27, 2005 at 22:22:31, Robin Smith wrote: >> >>>On June 27, 2005 at 02:54:38, Drexel,Michael wrote: >>> >>>>On June 26, 2005 at 21:29:30, K. Burcham wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I assume Chrilly wrote the Code for the Nimzo program. >>>>>If this is true then what were his results from year to year when working with >>>>>chess code against his competitors, Ed, Robert, etc... >>>>>Was Chrilly winning some of the time, most of the time? >>>>>How many times was Nimzo world champion? >>>>>Is Chrilly an IM, GM..? >>>> >>>>Chrilly is a weak chess player. >>> >>>True; but then most strong chess programmers are weak chess players. >>> >>>>He has also no respect for human GMs at all. >>> >>>Then why is a human GM on the Hydra team? What support can you give for this >>>claim? >> >>I read more than once disrespectful comments about GMs from him. For example >>after Bilbao. > >I am curious about Chrilly; what _exactly_ did he say that was disrespectful >towards GMs? Search at the CSS-Forum archive if you can read German. Maybe you can find out that way what he _exactly_ wrote. I read some comments from him there after the Bilbao match. IIRC he accused Ponomariov of cheating for example. > >BTW, I could say the same about you. >Michael Drexel: "Therefore it was outright stupid <of Adams> to play the Petroff defence" In Germany you often say in chess "dummer Zug" or "dummer Fehler". That does not mean the person who played that move is stupid at all. Michael >-Robin > >>> >>>>>How come all of a sudden this Chrilly has a program that some say beats >>>>>shredder, all of the worlds top programmers, and now can beat the number 7 super >>>>>GM in the world. >>>> >>>>It´s very easy. Start a match between Fruit 2.1 on a 2 GHz against Shredder 9 on >>>>200 Mhz. Shredder wouldn´t have a chance. >>>> >>>>This Hardware will always produce very strong chess in open positions. >>> >>>Yes. It seems to do pretty well in semi-open positions as well. Maybe time will >>>tell about closed positions (if Hydra ever allows them). >>> >>>>Crafty on that Hardware would smash Adams as well. >>> >>>Adams would have won all 6 games by forfeit, Crafty won't run on that hardware. >>>:-) >> >>Bob can comment on this if he likes. I think it wouldn´t take him much time to >>modify Crafty to run on a 64 Xeon processor cluster. >>Certainly I talked only about the cluster without the FPGA cards. >> >>> >>>>Chrilly is IMO a worse chess programmer than SMK or Amir Ban or Frans Morsch. >>> >>>SMK, Amir Ban, and Frans Morsch (and others) are excellent programmers. However >>>Chrilly has produced the strongest chess playing entity ever created, so your >>>strong statement needs strong proof. What is your evidence; just because >>>Michael Drexel says it? Can you support all these claims with anything other >>>than opinion? >>> >>>Besides Chrilly knows things most other programmers do not; he understands >>>electronics hardware and as well as the software. This allows him to do things >>>others can't, and to enter a realm where other skills besides the ability to >>>program PC's becomes important. Using these skills allows him to do things other >>>programmers can't, just like knowing how to program allows programmers to do >>>things others can't. This hardly seems like a reason to bash Chrilly's skill or >>>accomplishment. I don't think SMK, Amir Ban, or Frans Morsch could have done >>>what Chrilly has done. >> >>I didn´t wrote and also do not think Chrilly is a worse programmer than the >>above mentioned programmers. I wrote he is a worse chess programmer IMO. >>I assume he started to work on Brutus because he didn´t see much chances to be >>competitive anymore with Nimzo. >> >>Michael >> >>> >>>-Robin >>> >>>>Michael >>>> >>>> >>>> You think people in any other sport can all of a sudden beat >>>>>the worlds best, when they have proven in the past they do not have world class >>>>>talent. >>>>>Of course if someone has the stats to show me that Chrilly was already world >>>>>class programmer and was winning against world class programmers---then I will >>>>>have learned about Chrilly. I am like many here, I do not know. So I would like >>>>>for some of the chess program history buffs to fill me in on this guy that is >>>>>kicking ass at the top. >>>>> >>>>>Also, now that Chrilly is on top, Frederic would you please tell Chrilly to comb >>>>>his hair---if it will not comb---have him use some hair gel. >>>>> >>>>>kburcham
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