Author: Terry McCracken
Date: 23:54:37 06/28/05
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On June 29, 2005 at 01:25:01, Derek Paquette wrote: >We have Gm's crying left and right! >We have board members crying left and right > >"HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN!" > >Its been decades since computers first started playing chess you would think >that eventually they would pass us, and now is that time for computers. If a >desktop PC chess program that is programmed by one man or two(sometimes) can >beat a super grandmaster (sometimes) you'd think a computer the size of a large >fridge, programmed and operated by a TEAM, and has a huge budget running so fast >that it calculates on a scale some can't even imagine that it would YES! beat a >human. > >We got GM's that are so far up on their horses they absolutely REFUSE to come >back to earth and realize that 'they' are beaten. Hydra outplayed adams fair >and square, it was obvious from game one. Yet...we still have people who are >die-hard grandmaster fanboys who say computers still don't 'understand chess' >well either they do or they don't, but whatever they are doing, if you call it >just brute forcing it, they are doing it better, well in compensation to >whatever micky adams or other Gm's its faced were doing. I cannot stand people >who cry foul over this, I especially can't stand some of the comments that are >on chessbase.com, like Nigel Short for example, what exactly is he saying? Is >he saying "yes hydra can beat any human, i feel bad for adams" or is he calling >bul@#@it > >Regardless, we got idiots asking "what does this prove?" > >If this was an arm wrestling competition, it would prove that hydra is a better >arm wrestler >If this was a 100m race, it would prove hydra is faster >If this was a god damn sweater knitting contest, hydra would be a better knitter > >So don't try and say it doesn't mean anything, hydra dominated adams, stepped up >to all other grandmasters, (topolov did ok, but it was a draw) no matter how >well Topolov did, who cares, it was a draw. The final standing is what counts > >"ah well he tried, lets give him more credit than the other guy who did JUST as >good and managed a draw" > >I cannot stand the fanboy wankism of some people who feel super grandmasters are >invincible because their lives exist within a very small bubble and can't escape >the fact that a machine thats worth a million bucks can beat them > >GOOD GRIEF Yes Hydra beat Adams....this isn't to say that machines of this caliber are all but invincible. Someone will slay Hydra, unless they pull plug...keep watching. I admit not too many people would be able to beat Hydra in a game...no one has yet otb with no assistance, let alone a match, but there are "human forklifts" out there. One's retired, and has instability problems with computers. You never know?;-) P.S. You're right though, Grandmasters are losing this battle for supremacy. Terry
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