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Subject: Re: Did HYDRA play perfect chess? Impossible!

Author: Terry Giles

Date: 11:28:30 07/01/05

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On July 01, 2005 at 14:05:11, Rolf Tueschen wrote:

>On July 01, 2005 at 13:41:05, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>
>>On July 01, 2005 at 09:18:09, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>
>>>Since my perfect chessmachine ROLF played only 75% of the HYDRA moves against
>>>Adams, you can see how far away HYDRA is still from perfect play. That is why
>>>it's still making sense if more GM play show events.
>>
>>It's a path near to perfect, perfection is a "chimera" , but it's stronger than
>>strongest humans listening to Mr. Adams words...that is why it's so damn
>>difficult to beat:
>>
>>From Adams interview at chessbase
>>...
>>"I think it proves that Hydra is a much stronger ‘player’ than any other
>>computer in the world. We may not be able to measure its strength in Elo, but it
>>is huge. I also suspect Hydra is stronger than any other human opponent. Okay,
>>it has to be proved in the future, but this is my impression at the moment and I
>>suspect it is accurate. I mean from my point of view I don’t think I played
>>terribly. I did my best and it just wasn’t good enough."
>>
>>
>>w.b.r.
>>Otello
>
>
>Hi Otello,
>
>what Adams says in the interview is under the medication of 10000 he got for his
>draw. Adams doesn't know the computerchess world. Certainly he never heard of my
>perfect chess machine.
>
>Debating the Elo of HYDRA doesn't make sense because it hasn't played much games
>yet. On playchesscom HYDRA wasn't successful at all. Now you cannot begin to
>calculate the Elo for - say - Sturday night or Monday. Elo is either for the
>whole of it or nothing.
>
>If a human chessplayer had beaten Adams with 5,5 to 0,5 THEN this human
>chessplayer had a tremendous Elo performance. But if you let Adams play a 6
>games showevent against HYDRA, a completely unknown machine, and then calculate
>Elo number with human touch so to speak. There is no such number.
>
>My tiny little program ROLF has Elo of over 30000, because it won all the games
>it played. No wonder because it plays perfect chess with its 640 processors!
>
>That should give you a light impression of the power of my program. HYDRA and DB
>and all the rest are millions of lightyears below - because as you know Elo
>can't be calculated with basic retangular maths. So a three times stronger
>player cant claim Elo 6000 if it has beaten a 2000 player. Know what I mean?!
>
>Elo 30 000 (In words thirty thousand) is as if you would leave the solar system
>of this universe and enter new worlds, so to speak. I hope I could clarify a
>bit.
>
>Rolf, Actually from Outer Space


Hi Rolf,

Working within the domain of unrestrained analytic pan-dimensional quantum
hyper-maths and utilising Carol Vordermanian normalising vector indices I
recently evaluated that the maximum theoretically attainable elo value to be
somewhere in the region of 29700 +/- 200. I therefore regrettably, have to
harbour some doubt as to the veracity of your claim.

Terry (a bipedal carbon based life form)

;-)



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