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Subject: Re: Why did black resign?

Author: Ricardo Gibert

Date: 18:13:34 07/01/05

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On July 01, 2005 at 19:44:38, John Merlino wrote:

>On July 01, 2005 at 19:23:33, Marc D wrote:
>
>>[D]R7/2r2k2/p5P1/1p6/1P4N1/1KB5/P5r1/8 b - - 0 38
>>
>>This was a game between Sikula(2457)and Blaszik(1964)
>>
>>Why did black (have to) resign?
>>
>>Wondering
>>Marc
>
>38...Ke7 is forced. (If 38...Kxg6 39.Rg8+ and Black will lose his g2 Rook -- if
>38...Ke6 39.Rxa6 and things go downhill from there.)
>
>So, after 38...Ke7 39.Ne3 Rxg6 40.Nd5+ Kd7 41.Nxc7 Kxc7 appears to be forced
>also, and now White is up a piece.

Or 39.b7 Rg3 40.b8=Q (or 40.Re8+ Kd6 41.Ne3 +-) Rgxc3+ 41.Kb2 Rc2+ 42.Ka3 R2c3+
43.Qb3 +-

>
>However, I would say that Black might have resigned a bit prematurely. Here's
>now CM9_R1 analyzes the position after 41...Kxc7 on a P4-2.4:
>
>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>0:00	1/3	4.09	1819		42.Ra7+ Kb8 43.Rg7 Rd6 44.Be5
>0:00	1/4	4.02	4433		42.Ra7+ Kb8 43.Rf7 Rg3 44.Rg7 Rf3
>0:00	1/5	4.03	11191		42.Ra7+ Kb8 43.Rg7 Re6 44.Bd4 Kc8
>					45.Ra7
>0:00	1/6	4.01	23331		42.Ra7+ Kb8 43.Rg7 Re6 44.Bd4 Kc8
>					45.Ra7 Re4
>0:00	1/7	4.01	62256		42.Ra7+ Kb8 43.Rg7 Re6 44.Bd4 Kc8
>					45.Ra7 Re4
>0:00	1/8	4.01	105025		42.Ra7+ Kb8 43.Re7 Rg3 44.Kc2 Rg2+
>					45.Bd2 Rf2 46.Kd3 Kc8
>0:00	2/9	4.00	223515		42.Ra7+ Kb8 43.Re7 Rg3 44.Kc2 Rg2+
>					45.Bd2 Rf2 46.Kd3 Kc8 47.Re6 Kb7
>0:01	3/10	4.02	416349		42.Ra7+ Kb8 43.Rg7 Rxg7 44.Bxg7
>					a5 45.a3 Kc8 46.Kc3 axb4+ 47.axb4
>					Kd7 48.Kd4 Ke6
>0:02	4/11	4.02	779384		42.Ra7+ Kb8 43.Rg7 Rxg7 44.Bxg7
>					a5 45.a3 Kc8 46.Kc3 axb4+ 47.axb4
>					Kd7 48.Kd4 Ke6
>0:04	5/12	4.02	1661790		42.Ra7+ Kb8 43.Rg7 Rxg7 44.Bxg7
>					a5 45.a3 Kc8 46.Kc3 axb4+ 47.axb4
>					Kd7 48.Kd4 Ke6 49.Ke4
>0:11	6/13	4.02	4561574		42.Ra7+ Kb8 43.Rg7 Re6 44.Bd4 Rh6
>					45.Be5+ Kc8 46.Ra7 Rh5 47.Bc3 Rh6
>					48.a3 Rd6 49.Kc2
>0:32	7/14	4.06	13084424	42.Ra7+ Kb8 43.Rg7 Re6 44.Bd4 Rh6
>					45.Be5+ Kc8 46.Ra7 Rh5 47.Bc3 Rh6
>					48.a3 Re6 49.Kc2 Rd6
>1:30	8/15	4.05	37211374	42.Ra7+ Kb8 43.Rg7 Rh6 44.a4 Rh5
>					45.a5 Rd5 46.Kc2 Kc8 47.Rg6 Kb7
>					48.Rb6+ Ka7 49.Rf6 Rd7 50.Be5 Kb7
>
>Note that in the final PV, Black has not made any progress, and the eval is
>pretty much steady through all depths. This looks to me like one of those
>situations where engines give a high score to the side with the material
>advantage, but the position might be a theoretical draw.
>
>jm

There is no "might be a theoretical draw." This is one of those positions where
computer do poorly, because they can't plan. The win is long winded, but not in
doubt.



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