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Subject: Re: interview with Michael Adams posted on chessbase

Author: Eugene Nalimov

Date: 19:27:02 07/01/05

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On July 01, 2005 at 21:38:28, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>...
>
>My point was that Hydra is most _certainly_ not some new level of computer chess
>as stated by Adams.  I wouldn't argue against it being the best computer chess
>entity at the moment.  But it is absolutely _not_ head and shoulders above
>others.  The advantage I have is that I have a lot of experience with parallel
>and distributed search, and know the losses that a distributed search entails
>compared to a pure SMP approach.  And even if they are currently reaching 200M
>nodes per second, which I somehow doubt given the FPGA numbers they have
>published in the past, that is not _that_ much faster than other readily
>available hardware.  I've seen numbers well beyond 20M for Crafty on a quad
>dual-core opteron, for example.  I've seen numbers more than double that on
>other machines I can't really mention at the moment.  So they are not _that_ far
>beyond today's programs.  Clearly Adam's comments are based on some other
>reality or understanding that is not based on factual analysis.

Today you can buy Itanium2 64-CPU system at
http://www.hp.com/products1/servers/integrity/superdome_high_end/

Last time I measured Crafty run at ~1.5Mnps on one Itanium2 CPU. So with some
additional work (avoid cache conflicts, maybe introduce smaller local hash to be
probed at the last ply or two) Crafty can hit ~100Mnps on such beast.

For less than $40k you can buy reasonable configured 8 sockets / 16 cores
Opteron system. For example take a look at
http://www.pcsforeveryone.com/product_info.php?cPath=1967&products_id=14101&customize=true

Crafty should run at ~30-35Mnps on such system.

Both those systems are NUMA, not clusters, so search should be more efficient.

Thanks,
Eugene



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