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Subject: Re: Adams in new FIDE rating list

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 03:04:10 07/02/05

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On July 02, 2005 at 03:36:13, Christos Gitsis wrote:

>On July 02, 2005 at 00:58:06, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On July 01, 2005 at 22:52:53, Peter Skinner wrote:
>>
>>>On July 01, 2005 at 21:06:30, Christos Gitsis wrote:
>>>
>>>>Adams has dropped to number 13 of the FIDE rating list (July 1).
>>>>He lost 18 points from 25 games.
>>>>He is clearly not in good form right now.
>>>>
>>>>Rank	 Name	                 Title	 Country Rating	 Games	 B-Day
>>>> 1	 Kasparov, Garry	 g	 RUS	 2812	 0	 1963-04-13
>>>> 2	 Anand, Viswanathan	 g	 IND	 2788	 18	 1969-12-11
>>>> 3	 Topalov, Veselin	 g	 BUL	 2788	 10	 1975-03-15
>>>> 4	 Leko, Peter	         g	 HUN	 2763	 0	 1979-09-08
>>>> 5	 Ivanchuk, Vassily	 g	 UKR	 2752	 25	 1969-03-18
>>>> 6	 Kramnik, Vladimir	 g	 RUS	 2744	 12	 1975-06-25
>>>> 7	 Svidler, Peter	         g	 RUS	 2738	 26	 1976-06-17
>>>> 8	 Polgar, Judit	         g	 HUN	 2735	 10	 1976-07-23
>>>> 9	 Bacrot, Etienne	 g	 FRA	 2729	 13	 1983-01-22
>>>> 10	 Aronian, Levon	         g	 ARM	 2724	 30	 1982-10-06
>>>> 11	 Gelfand, Boris	         g	 ISR	 2724	 12	 1968-06-24
>>>> 12	 Grischuk, Alexander	 g	 RUS	 2720	 17	 1983-10-31
>>>> 13	 Adams, Michael	         g	 ENG	 2719	 25	 1971-11-17
>>>> 14	 Morozevich, Alexander	 g	 RUS	 2707	 11	 1977-07-18
>>>> 15	 Shirov, Alexei	         g	 ESP	 2705	 29	 1972-07-04
>>>> 16	 Akopian, Vladimir	 g	 ARM	 2705	 9	 1971-12-07
>>>> 17	 Ponomariov, Ruslan	 g	 UKR	 2704	 10	 1983-10-11
>>>> 18	 Bologan, Viktor	 g	 MDA	 2700	 30	 1971-12-14
>>>> 19	 Kamsky, Gata	         g	 USA	 2700	 0	 1974-06-02
>>>> 20	 Dreev, Alexey	         g	 RUS	 2698	 20	 1969-01-30
>>>
>>>I find it amazing that the current World Champ is in 6th. Kramnik's place has
>>>been suffering as well. He has dropped 9 points since the last list.
>>>
>>>I think it is time for someone to step up and challenge him for the title.
>>>
>>>Peter
>>
>>I find it amazing that people consider kramnik as the world champion.
>>
>>I think that he has no right to call himself the world champion.
>>In the last years he only won a single match against Kasparov and he did not
>>deserve to play the match in the first place.
>>
>>Alexei Shirov is only 15 in the list but I think that it is even better to
>>consider him as the world champion and not to consider kramnik as the world
>>champion.
>>
>>Shirov beated kramnik in a match before kramnik played against kasparov and
>>everybody who care about justice should be against the fact that shirov got
>>nothing for it.
>>
>>Uri
>
>Hello Uri,
>
>I agree that this was not fair to Shirov.
>
>As I read yesterday, he won the match, but received no monetary reward, because
>his payment was to be the world championship match. Kramnik, on the other hand,
>received a monetary prize as loser of the match, and then also got the title
>match with Kasparov.
>
>I, also, am annoyed by Kramnik's attitude since he became World Champion, and I
>admire Shirov's playing style. However, I can't consider Shirov to be World
>Champion, because he never won a World Championship match. Besides Kramnik did
>win a match against Leko eight months ago. I suppose this means that he will be
>calling himself World Champion for the next three-four years.


If you only take FIDE rating points into consideration, nobody deserve to be
called World Champion more than Anand, since he has been on top for the logest
after Kasparov left Chess.

Jorge



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