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Subject: Re: Adams in new FIDE rating list

Author: I Hart SanQuentin

Date: 06:18:32 07/02/05

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On July 02, 2005 at 07:50:30, Thomas Logan wrote:

>On July 02, 2005 at 03:36:13, Christos Gitsis wrote:
>
>>On July 02, 2005 at 00:58:06, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On July 01, 2005 at 22:52:53, Peter Skinner wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 01, 2005 at 21:06:30, Christos Gitsis wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Adams has dropped to number 13 of the FIDE rating list (July 1).
>>>>>He lost 18 points from 25 games.
>>>>>He is clearly not in good form right now.
>>>>>
>>>>>Rank	 Name	                 Title	 Country Rating	 Games	 B-Day
>>>>> 1	 Kasparov, Garry	 g	 RUS	 2812	 0	 1963-04-13
>>>>> 2	 Anand, Viswanathan	 g	 IND	 2788	 18	 1969-12-11
>>>>> 3	 Topalov, Veselin	 g	 BUL	 2788	 10	 1975-03-15
>>>>> 4	 Leko, Peter	         g	 HUN	 2763	 0	 1979-09-08
>>>>> 5	 Ivanchuk, Vassily	 g	 UKR	 2752	 25	 1969-03-18
>>>>> 6	 Kramnik, Vladimir	 g	 RUS	 2744	 12	 1975-06-25
>>>>> 7	 Svidler, Peter	         g	 RUS	 2738	 26	 1976-06-17
>>>>> 8	 Polgar, Judit	         g	 HUN	 2735	 10	 1976-07-23
>>>>> 9	 Bacrot, Etienne	 g	 FRA	 2729	 13	 1983-01-22
>>>>> 10	 Aronian, Levon	         g	 ARM	 2724	 30	 1982-10-06
>>>>> 11	 Gelfand, Boris	         g	 ISR	 2724	 12	 1968-06-24
>>>>> 12	 Grischuk, Alexander	 g	 RUS	 2720	 17	 1983-10-31
>>>>> 13	 Adams, Michael	         g	 ENG	 2719	 25	 1971-11-17
>>>>> 14	 Morozevich, Alexander	 g	 RUS	 2707	 11	 1977-07-18
>>>>> 15	 Shirov, Alexei	         g	 ESP	 2705	 29	 1972-07-04
>>>>> 16	 Akopian, Vladimir	 g	 ARM	 2705	 9	 1971-12-07
>>>>> 17	 Ponomariov, Ruslan	 g	 UKR	 2704	 10	 1983-10-11
>>>>> 18	 Bologan, Viktor	 g	 MDA	 2700	 30	 1971-12-14
>>>>> 19	 Kamsky, Gata	         g	 USA	 2700	 0	 1974-06-02
>>>>> 20	 Dreev, Alexey	         g	 RUS	 2698	 20	 1969-01-30
>>>>
>>>>I find it amazing that the current World Champ is in 6th. Kramnik's place has
>>>>been suffering as well. He has dropped 9 points since the last list.
>>>>
>>>>I think it is time for someone to step up and challenge him for the title.
>>>>
>>>>Peter
>>>
>>>I find it amazing that people consider kramnik as the world champion.
>>>
>>>I think that he has no right to call himself the world champion.
>>>In the last years he only won a single match against Kasparov and he did not
>>>deserve to play the match in the first place.
>>>
>>>Alexei Shirov is only 15 in the list but I think that it is even better to
>>>consider him as the world champion and not to consider kramnik as the world
>>>champion.
>>>
>>>Shirov beated kramnik in a match before kramnik played against kasparov and
>>>everybody who care about justice should be against the fact that shirov got
>>>nothing for it.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>Hello Uri,
>>
>>I agree that this was not fair to Shirov.
>>
>>As I read yesterday, he won the match, but received no monetary reward, because
>>his payment was to be the world championship match. Kramnik, on the other hand,
>>received a monetary prize as loser of the match, and then also got the title
>>match with Kasparov.
>>
>>I, also, am annoyed by Kramnik's attitude since he became World Champion, and I
>>admire Shirov's playing style. However, I can't consider Shirov to be World
>>Champion, because he never won a World Championship match. Besides Kramnik did
>>win a match against Leko eight months ago. I suppose this means that he will be
>>calling himself World Champion for the next three-four years.
>
>Wasn't the match drawn ?
>
>Does Kramnik get draw odds to win the match ?
>
>Tom


Yes he gets draw odds- Bogus, i can't stand Kramnik



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