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Subject: Re: On the Voyager Issue, briefly -- to Bob Hyatt

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 11:12:36 02/17/99

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On February 17, 1999 at 13:41:33, Will Singleton wrote:

>
>On February 17, 1999 at 08:18:01, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:
>
>>Bob,
>>
>>I read your report carefully. The story is over for me.  I know where I am now,
>>and what I have been doing.  About my doubts -- yes, I did have them but there
>>was that different style of play, my good faith and a rationally based
>>conviction that the author is a brillant person.  For all I know the author IS a
>>brilliant person.  However, I have enough evidence now to form my opinion about
>>those early versions of Voyager -- R=3, some eval changes (e. g. bishops getting
>>more bonus vs. knights than you assigned), plus some other Voyager specific
>>changes which I will not mention now as the author is still, I think, working on
>>the program (hopefully making a wholly new product).  Bob, thanks for doing what
>>I thought you should surely do -- presenting evidence.  From now on, the version
>>playing on ICC (a terrific blitz player otherwise) will be labelled as Voyager,
>>by Robert Hyatt, modified by G. Mueller.  I do intend to run it more when I have
>>time, as I truly believe it to be one of the best blitzers on the Net.
>>
>>There are some other points that I have raised in the discussions with Dan Homan
>>and Jeremiah Pennery that I think are worth further elucidation. Perhaps later
>>at some point.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Djordje
>
>
>Looking at the results of testing posted on your website, it appears that Mr.
>Mueller has done something pretty remarkable; that is, he has found significant
>grounds for improvement in a program that has been under development for years
>by RH.  What, exactly, are the changes that have improved it?  For a program
>that beats Crafty on equal hardware in *every* single match (as you state), I
>think people would be extremely interested to know how he did it.  This could be
>very exciting.
>
>Would it be possible to post or otherwise publish the parts of the code that
>were changed, so that we may share in this great achievement?
>
>Re your new labeling of MagusX, etc, I don't know if Bob wrote a program called
>Voyager.  I thought it was Crafty.  Other people have modified versions running,
>and to my knowledge they retain the Crafty name.  Maybe I'm wrong about that,
>don't know.
>
>Will

I spent quite a bit of time trying to find a web page that discusses this in
detail, but I couldn't.  Could you give me a URL please?

bruce



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